(April 5, 2025 at 2:44 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote:(April 5, 2025 at 2:22 pm)Drew_2013 Wrote: I'm a theist but I'm not 100% sure. How can anyone be certain how a universe that caused intelligent life to exist was caused inadvertently by mindless natural forces? Do we 'know' such forces alone could do that? Do we know they did do that? Where does your certainty come from?
Whether God exists has nothing to do the evolution of intelligent life.
Yes, we know that.
My certainty comes from the grindingly, creakingly, crashingly obvious mountain of evidence that there is no place in a natural universe for a supernatural Overseer.
Boru
That's a theological reason. How do you know what it takes to cause a universe to exist? The only thing we have to go on at this time is what happened after the universe began to exist. And what happened was a shitload of things to cause a planet like earth to exist. I don't have a problem with evolution. Its all the things necessary for their to be such a nice planet like earth. For instance the earlier universe didn't come with the ingredients such as carbon, nitrogen, oxygen, phosphorus, and sulfur necessary for life and the material for rocky planets to exist.
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