RE: I will prove to you that God exists
April 6, 2025 at 2:20 pm
(This post was last modified: April 6, 2025 at 2:22 pm by Fake Messiah.)
Drew_2013 Wrote:When folks say we owe the existence of the universe to natural causes they can't mean the natural forces we're familiar with in space-time. Those natural forces are what came into existence.
You are just playing semantics here. It has nothing to do with evidence or logic but just some parlor tricks.
I tell you this, black holes could very well be (other) baby universes if not whole universes by themselves with different natural forces in them and they were created by natural forces (as was subsequently our universe).
teachings of the Bible are so muddled and self-contradictory that it was possible for Christians to happily burn heretics alive for five long centuries. It was even possible for the most venerated patriarchs of the Church, like St. Augustine and St. Thomas Aquinas, to conclude that heretics should be tortured (Augustine) or killed outright (Aquinas). Martin Luther and John Calvin advocated the wholesale murder of heretics, apostates, Jews, and witches. - Sam Harris, "Letter To A Christian Nation"
