I will prove to you that God exists

[Drew_2013]

Sheldon

You have presented no evidence the ideas expressed are scientifically evidenced, and we already know they are not, as there is no such consensus among scientists with the necessary expertise in the related fields of scientific study. And of course, if this man remains an atheist, this rather contradicts your assumptions fine tuning evidences a deity. You see happy to ignore such flaws in your spiel.

I have repeatedly presented facts you call an appeal to authority. There is a consensus the universe is fine-tuned for life. The people making those observations are the people who, if anyone should know. My spiel, as you call it, is the reason I and many people including scientists and non-religious people subscribe to the claim our universe was intentionally caused.

Atheism makes a counter claim that at very the very minimum whatever caused the universe and ultimately life, it was the result of sheer happenstance by forces the didn't intend the universe to exist, didn't intend the laws of physics to exist and didn't intend themselves to exist. Yet we live in a universe  that has  laws  of  physics,  is  knowable,  uniform  and  to  a  large  extent  predictable,  amenable  to  scientific  research  and  the  laws  of  logic  deduction  and  induction  and  is  also  explicable  in  mathematical  terms. Isaac Newton, the father of physics believed the universe was intentionally caused to exist so he did use circular reasoning to deduce universe was explicable mathematically. His circular reasoning panned out. Dozens of formula's have been extracted from the universe. Explain why natural forces that didn't intend humans to exist would cause a universe with laws of physics that force stars to make the ingredients needed for planets and humans to exist? There is no explanation...just happenstance. 

Lets level set this argument a bit. The only two things we know and agree on is that the universe exists and intelligent humans exist and obviously the conditions for that to occur exist. Even the most hard core atheist has to admit its at least very fortuitous that mechanistic forces serendipitously caused the conditions for life to occur.
 

I now what the term means thanks, it is not broadly accepted among elite scientists in the necessary fields of study that the universe is "fine tuned", or that this phenomenon is evidence of a creator or a deity. Do you imagine this objection will go away if you simply keep repeating your original claims? That scientists use the term "fine tuned" to describe this phenomenon, does not mean it is fine tuned, let alone by a creator, or a deity. You seem to have lathered yourself up, but forgotten to turn on the shower. I accept that the carbon based organic life we observe, would be impossible if the parameters of certain characteristics of the physical universe were shifting an infinitesimally small amount, this does not represent scientific evidence it was fine tuned, even if that term has become a popular metaphor among scientists to describe that phenomenon.

I realize to atheists fine-tuning is just another observation they have to wish away. Suppose scientists made their measurements and observations and realized a whole slew of wide ranging possibilities would cause life to exist? You'd be screaming it from the rooftops. Exactly what you'd expect of forces that didn't intend our existence. You'd expect life to be something forces that didn't intend to cause life could do without trying. Yet knowing  the ingredients for life but we still can't get it started.