(April 8, 2025 at 2:36 pm)Drew_2013 Wrote:(April 8, 2025 at 2:29 pm)Fake Messiah Wrote:
The irony of this they don't think mindless natural forces, minus any plan or intent or a physics degree causing a universe to exist with the all the conditions for life to exist is a miracle. Causing things to happen intentionally isn't miraculous.
![[Image: miracle.jpg]](https://i.postimg.cc/QxTgt1Yx/miracle.jpg)
You miss the point, as usual. To claim a supernatural explanation of something is not to explain it at all and, even worse, to rule out any possibility of its ever being explained. Because anything ‘supernatural’ must by definition be beyond the reach of a natural explanation. It must be beyond the reach of science and the well-established, tried and tested scientific method that has been responsible for the huge advances in knowledge we have enjoyed over the last 400 years or so. To say that something happened supernaturally is not just to say ‘We don’t understand it’ but to say ‘We will never understand it, so don’t even try.’
teachings of the Bible are so muddled and self-contradictory that it was possible for Christians to happily burn heretics alive for five long centuries. It was even possible for the most venerated patriarchs of the Church, like St. Augustine and St. Thomas Aquinas, to conclude that heretics should be tortured (Augustine) or killed outright (Aquinas). Martin Luther and John Calvin advocated the wholesale murder of heretics, apostates, Jews, and witches. - Sam Harris, "Letter To A Christian Nation"
