RE: I will prove to you that God exists
April 10, 2025 at 12:05 pm
(This post was last modified: April 10, 2025 at 12:20 pm by Drew_2013.)
(April 10, 2025 at 11:55 am)Angrboda Wrote:They would still be in just as narrow a range as ever only now you're saying for some reason, they had to be in that narrow range. I believe it was designed to be in that narrow range and if other universes are the same that just more evidence it was intentionally caused. I'm pointing out this is a bad argument.(April 10, 2025 at 11:43 am)Drew_2013 Wrote: I did answer it only apparently to someone else.
Quote:Was it in this thread, or another?
I'm not sure but I also fouled up the name of the person I responded too...I have 26 responses I try to get to them.
Quote:From what I've seen, they suggest that it might be a possibility. However, since we have no observations of these other universes if they exist, we have no evidence one way or the other.
Exactly. So whether other universes are the same or different is a moot point.
(April 10, 2025 at 11:43 am)Drew_2013 Wrote: Its as warranted as ever especially if other universes (assuming others exist) are in the same exceedingly narrow configuration that causes life to exist. Cookie cutter universes look more intentionally designed to cause life than just one universe that stumbled upon the configuration.Quote:Well that's the purpose of the question, to determine whether we can meaningfully say that the value exists within a narrow range of values in which such a universe could exist. If the characteristics cannot be other than what they are, then there is no "range" in which they can very, and thus it is not meaningful to describe that as narrow or wide. This is the key mistake that people who argue fine-tuning make -- implying that the values exist within a range through which they can vary. If they cannot vary, there is no range, and thus no tuning at all, neither fine nor coarse.