(April 10, 2025 at 9:51 am)Drew_2013 Wrote:(April 10, 2025 at 5:31 am)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: Universes are not laptops. Read your Hume, he debunked this nonsense almost 300 years ago.
And I WILL answer your question: It would be far more magical if an all-powerful Being, operating outside the constraints of time and space, created intelligence in a slipshod fashion than if natural processes did the same thing. We have mountains of evidence for the former, none for the latter.
Boru
How did the forces that caused the universe to expand operate? Were those 'natural' forces inside spacetime that hadn't come into existence yet? A laptop isn't the universe its a far less complex contrivance. If mindless natural forces can cause the universe a laptop is child's play.
You miss the point. A laptop (or a pocket watch) is a demonstrably manufactured thing you can quite literally watch them being made. No one has ever seen a universe being made. This is, and always has been a false analogy.
Again, I suggest you read Hume’s A Treatise On Human Understanding. It’s a bit heavy going, but very valuable in pointing out the flaws in your argument.
Boru
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