(April 15, 2025 at 6:42 am)Alan V Wrote:(April 15, 2025 at 6:16 am)Sheldon Wrote: It's time Drew understood that probability is a scientific theory, not a subjective opinion, and the "this seems to involve long odds, that I have subjectively decided aren't possible, so I am going to insert an unevidenced deity, using inexplicable magic, from an archaic superstition", argument, is never going to pass muster with the scientific world, or anyone citing rational objections.
In general, theists keep promoting their philosophical arguments when cosmology long ago became a science. Drew is just another case of Maslow's hammer.
They haven't caught up with the simple fact that science, again and again, has decisively shown that the way the universe actually works is counter-intuitive.
You have to be able to do the math, or at least to believe the people who can.
You folks are such faithful believers I believe you start boards like this just to re-affirm you faith. You convince yourselves there is overwhelming evidence against a Creator and solid evidence the universe and life was caused inadvertently. Yet only a pathetic number of people subscribe to atheism. Its not theists (Falwell or Swaggert) who are claiming we live in a multiverse its reputable scientists. When are you folks going to straighten these scientists out...explain about the water and the puddle. Obviously they just don't know about that, no one's explained it to them. You don't need an infinitude of universes to cause one ours...just like you don't need an infinitude of puddles. Just write them your puddle thesis and I'm sure they'll all retract their position on multiverse theory. They just need you people to show them the way...that's it...that's the ticket,
