(April 17, 2025 at 1:30 am)The Architect Of Fate Wrote:(April 17, 2025 at 12:51 am)Paleophyte Wrote: The fine-tuning crowd like to claim that the puddle analogy fails because the universe needs to be fine-tuned in order for water in order for there to be puddles. It's a failure to fully explore the possibilities, because you don't need water, you just need some fluid and a hole. We know this because we've discovered puddles (OK, lakes and seas) on Titan filled with liquid hydrocarbons and nitrogen. Mess with the fundamental constants and you'll probably get puddles of pentaquarks or something else exotic filling hollows in something else equally unusual. And every last one of them is going to marvel at how well-designed they must be in order to fit into their hole in the ground.They miss the point of the analogy were not literal puddle the analogy simply means whatever configuration that the universe took could have created some kind of life they often counter this by pointing out we currently know of only one planet that has spawned life or they point planets that are like ours didn't spawn life which doesn't help their case at all as life adapting doesn't mean it will always succeed even on similar planets to earth
And it really doesn't help their case any that of all the countless planets that exist we know of only one that has sprouted life. The universe is a pretty inefficient sentience generator if that's the case. You'd think that some AllMighty Creator would have made a universe where all planets would have life if that's what He was after, but hey, mysterious ways and all that BS.