Cutting off the Last Straw from Religion - Fear of Hell - Two Quick Reasons to let go

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The clincher is that if God created everything, he also created choices, thus elimination even any semblance of free will. And even more damning (pun very much intended), God also created the consequences of those choices.

The inescapable conclusion is that God knows which people are going to Hell - because he forced them into it -, but he created them just the same. It seems to me that God could have created only those people who would NOT end up in the fiery fire of fire. He didn't so, you know, fuck God.

Boru

Either he knew or he didn't know.

If he knew he was creating people only to suffer for eternity, then he is party to that suffering.

If he didn't know where they'd end up, then he is not omniscient.

Either way, the Christian conception of god is outgassed.

I haven't chimed in on this thread at this point because I don't know how helpful it is to proclaim that I have never been intimidated by the threat of Hell. The fear is real to some people and I don't like trivializing it.

But yeah, it fails the logic test big time. I always likened it to if I had designed, engineered and built a car that employed a wooden dowel as a steering rod to couple the steering wheel to a rack and pinion steering system. Predictably, the dowel fails, the driver loses steering control and there is a crash. Who's at fault? Me, obviously. But am I criminally culpable? Maybe not. Maybe I'm just a shitty engineer. But give me the unlimited intelligence and knowledge of God (to say nothing of prescience) and I'm guilty as hell. I knew damn well that the wooden steering dowel wouldn't last long at all. I knew that a crash was inevitable, perhaps with fatal results. There's no blaming the driver or anyone else. It's all on me.

That's where God is for every single soul that ends up in Hell. It's all on him.

The Christian concept of Hell is ridiculous.