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Cutting off the Last Straw from Religion - Fear of Hell - Two Quick Reasons to let go
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RE: Cutting off the Last Straw from Religion - Fear of Hell - Two Quick Reasons to let go
(July 28, 2025 at 12:04 am)AFTT47 Wrote:
(July 27, 2025 at 11:33 pm)Thumpalumpacus Wrote: Either he knew or he didn't know.

If he knew he was creating people only to suffer for eternity, then he is party to that suffering.

If he didn't know where they'd end up, then he is not omniscient.

Either way, the Christian conception of god is outgassed.

I haven't chimed in on this thread at this point because I don't know how helpful it is to proclaim that I have never been intimidated by the threat of Hell. The fear is real to some people and I don't like trivializing it.

But yeah, it fails the logic test big time. I always likened it to if I had designed, engineered and built a car that employed a wooden dowel as a steering rod to couple the steering wheel to a rack and pinion steering system. Predictably, the dowel fails, the driver loses steering control and there is a crash. Who's at fault? Me, obviously. But am I criminally culpable? Maybe not. Maybe I'm just a shitty engineer. But give me the unlimited intelligence and knowledge of God (to say nothing of prescience) and I'm guilty as hell. I knew damn well that the wooden steering dowel wouldn't last long at all. I knew that a crash was inevitable, perhaps with fatal results. There's no blaming the driver or anyone else. It's all on me.

That's where God is for every single soul that ends up in Hell. It's all on him.

The Christian concept of Hell is ridiculous.

(Bold mine)

'The New Testament is both good and original, but what is good is not original and what is original is not good.' -Thomas Paine (often misattributed to Samuel Johnson)

Boru
‘I can’t be having with this.’ - Esmeralda Weatherwax
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RE: Cutting off the Last Straw from Religion - Fear of Hell - Two Quick Reasons to let go - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - July 28, 2025 at 4:34 am

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