RE: It's A Quote
Yesterday at 3:54 am
(This post was last modified: Yesterday at 3:55 am by Belacqua.)
(Yesterday at 2:35 am)GrandizerII Wrote: Science doesn't decide how things should be defined. We do. Through science, we then conduct studies/experiments to answer questions or test hypotheses partly in light of how we have defined things.
Yes, I think this is crucial. Although I'm not sure how "science" differs from "we." Scientists are people. Anyway, we define things in a certain way, and then we test to see how things match up with our definitions.
Quote:Do we know better than the individual how they experience themselves internally?
Currently our method of determining gender is based on this -- the way that an individual experiences himself or herself internally.
We (the good people, the up-to-date people, not the Dawkins-type bad people) have agreed that this is sufficient to determine a person's gender. Thus our determination is based on an individual's subjective reporting. It is not something we test objectively.
I agree with you that objective tests are questionable -- not necessary, and maybe not possible. Certainly we can't conduct an anatomical test the way Dawkins thinks we can.
This is only a problem for people who think that we should only believe what is objectively testable through science. I have maintained all along that there are many things in the world which we hold to be true even in the absence of science-type testing. So I have no trouble with the whole gender thing.