“Normative” ethical theories

[Alan V]

The need for such an exploration is proven when we fail, and fail together, in an organized way.  Conversely, when we are being failed.  Would we find ourselves where we're at now in the us if our normative ethics hadn't been perverted and weaponized against us before being drowned in a gas station shitter by a walking cautionary tale of man?  I often find myself wondering what anyone is even complaining about, vis a vis that outcome, in context to the things they then say about ethics and normativity.

Like, if this is all true, then what's the problem with maga and magats, anyway?  What makes their policies bad, or wrong?  This is another angle where I can see maga as a disaffected leftist phenomena.  We're talking about people whove decided that our rules for justice and fairness were a bunch of bullshit and mere opinions that only a sucker would accept - and the real rule is take whatever you can steal at whomevers expense we must.  Ironic, in that they kept bitching about the pop culture lefts obsession with anti realist and post modern moral interpretations would be the downfall of the nation......and then they beat the left to the finish line on that count.  It's, apparently, the one thing that the left managed to convince the right of before they convinced themselves.

I wouldn't blame the victims.  The left has been arguing for the benefits of fairness, equality, and pluralism, and for paying close attention to the facts, not for moral relativity.  The right simply lied about all of it because it is easier to tear things down than learn enough to understand the complexities involved.

The right set up propaganda outlets on the radio and television and -- guess what? -- they were effective at flooding people with disinformation, conspiracy theories, and hatred so that they couldn't think straight.  The right largely swallowed the lies and dogmas which made them impervious to the facts about crime, immigration, climate change, the economy, and other Americans.

The normative ethics which the right embraces are still there.  They are just not applied equally to everyone because many of us are now seen as evil. If anything, the present situation is proof that normative ethics are as weak as we have been saying. That's just one of many sad facts about the human condition.