“Normative” ethical theories

[Lucian]

It doesn’t matter in terms of whether my position is right or not whether they would join me. I agree with Morris that a lot of the division comes from entrenched moral positions where people think that they are both objectively right one key issues and that people who don’t are worthy of disapproval as humans.

Maybe sociopathy is something that could help my aims, but also it doesn’t mean I have to like or acquiesce to any given act driven my it. I am not an “the ends justify the means” kind of thinker.

Also agree that I can’t argue you out of your position, or at least am not likely to. The moral realists I have read are vaguely religious in their kind of arguments, appealing to something that is of a category alien to anything else we know, of a nature we can’t assess, with intuition driving a lot of the thinking and no hard evidence for the thing claimed and different claims as to what is entailed by the existence of this supposed thing by massive groups of people. Appeals to “but if this isn’t true then things would be bad etc. Hard to argue someone out of that.
Note. I am not accusing you of religious thinking, I don’t know you well enough or your arguments and I don’t want to be insulting. Just my feel based on what I have read