(March 4, 2026 at 8:49 pm)Angrboda Wrote:(March 4, 2026 at 7:50 pm)Disagreeable Wrote: I agree with you Belacqua, about those two definitions of pleasure. I used to use the second one a lot in the past. But nowadays, as you can see, I use the first.
Can you give me an example of one?
Having a child, passing an exam, discovering new meaning in your life. You're putting the cart before the horse.
Yeah, it’s pretty circular. Only intrinsically good experiences give us pleasure, so we seek out these experiences in order to feel pleasure which makes them instrumentally good.
Boru
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