What is pleasure?

[Disagreeable]

I agree with you Belacqua, about those two definitions of pleasure. I used to use the second one a lot in the past. But nowadays, as you can see, I use the first.


Can you give me an example of one?

Having a child, passing an exam, discovering new meaning in your life.  You're putting the cart before the horse.

I'm sure that your experience of having a child largely involves pleasure. Though, not always. And then the question is just whether the pleasures outweigh the displeasures.

Passing an exam can lead to pride, which is again, pleasure. Although, because it *leads to* pleasure then in that case it's an instrumental good rather than a pleasure. But the pride itself is a pleasure.

Discovering new meaning in your life is a kind of intellectual pleasure.

It depends how we define pleasure. But under the way I have been defining it, these things count as pleasures.