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An Argument Against Determinism
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RE: An Argument Against Determinism
(March 11, 2026 at 7:53 pm)The Grand Nudger Wrote: Determinism seems to suggest otherwise, though, doesn't it?  By tomorrow, there will (possibly) be 24 more hours of now future prior events which might affect the then-present outcome or opinion.  If this is not true, or cannot be true (because said outcome or opinion is set today) then either determinism is false, or there just aren't many -or any- deterministic factors between now and then which can explain why one or some things happen while others don't.

I think we're hopelessly subjective on the issue, and can't propound an answer that is not colored by our desire to think we are large and in charge. Even if that answer is determined by everything that has passed before us, how could we know the difference?

If determinism is true, how might our opinions expressed here even be free at all? I'm not arguing determinism must be true -- but I wonder how we might know the difference.

In essence, determinism is unfalsifiable.

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An Argument Against Determinism - by Disagreeable - March 10, 2026 at 11:50 am
RE: An Argument Against Determinism - by HappySkeptic - March 10, 2026 at 7:22 pm
RE: An Argument Against Determinism - by The Grand Nudger - March 10, 2026 at 10:36 pm
RE: An Argument Against Determinism - by Thumpalumpacus - March 11, 2026 at 12:21 am
RE: An Argument Against Determinism - by Ivan Denisovich - March 11, 2026 at 2:19 pm
RE: An Argument Against Determinism - by Thumpalumpacus - March 11, 2026 at 2:30 pm
RE: An Argument Against Determinism - by Ivan Denisovich - March 11, 2026 at 2:34 pm
RE: An Argument Against Determinism - by The Grand Nudger - March 11, 2026 at 7:53 pm
RE: An Argument Against Determinism - by Ivan Denisovich - March 11, 2026 at 11:32 pm
RE: An Argument Against Determinism - by The Grand Nudger - March 13, 2026 at 9:06 am
RE: An Argument Against Determinism - by Ivan Denisovich - March 13, 2026 at 11:19 am
RE: An Argument Against Determinism - by Thumpalumpacus - March 11, 2026 at 11:54 pm
RE: An Argument Against Determinism - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - March 12, 2026 at 11:15 am
RE: An Argument Against Determinism - by The Grand Nudger - March 13, 2026 at 9:12 am
RE: An Argument Against Determinism - by Thumpalumpacus - March 13, 2026 at 10:28 am
RE: An Argument Against Determinism - by Disagreeable - March 13, 2026 at 2:06 pm
RE: An Argument Against Determinism - by Thumpalumpacus - March 13, 2026 at 2:16 pm
RE: An Argument Against Determinism - by Disagreeable - March 13, 2026 at 2:18 pm
RE: An Argument Against Determinism - by Thumpalumpacus - March 13, 2026 at 2:38 pm
RE: An Argument Against Determinism - by Disagreeable - March 13, 2026 at 2:42 pm
RE: An Argument Against Determinism - by Thumpalumpacus - March 13, 2026 at 5:14 pm
RE: An Argument Against Determinism - by Disagreeable - March 13, 2026 at 5:15 pm
RE: An Argument Against Determinism - by Disagreeable - March 11, 2026 at 10:47 am
RE: An Argument Against Determinism - by Angrboda - March 11, 2026 at 11:36 am
RE: An Argument Against Determinism - by Thumpalumpacus - March 11, 2026 at 9:00 pm
RE: An Argument Against Determinism - by Angrboda - March 13, 2026 at 5:51 pm
RE: An Argument Against Determinism - by Paleophyte - March 13, 2026 at 7:33 pm
RE: An Argument Against Determinism - by Disagreeable - March 13, 2026 at 7:35 pm
RE: An Argument Against Determinism - by Paleophyte - March 13, 2026 at 7:47 pm
RE: An Argument Against Determinism - by The Grand Nudger - March 13, 2026 at 9:03 pm
RE: An Argument Against Determinism - by Disagreeable - March 13, 2026 at 9:11 pm

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