(March 13, 2026 at 9:06 am)The Grand Nudger Wrote:(March 11, 2026 at 11:32 pm)Ivan Denisovich Wrote: I merely meant to say that changing one opinion does not invalidate determinism. All things are predetermined included changes (or lack of them) of one opinions and timespan of it.
Right, because our decisions (however arrived upon) are also counted in the set of prior events, but not because all things (or anything) is predeterminied. Determinism and predeterminism are wildly divergent notions about the cause of events. Under determinism it's entirely possible that that necessarry and sufficient conditions for x are not met until the very moment it happens. Predeterminism doesn't allow for this, and generally invokes an external and divine cause. An architect of fate. Freely willing what we cannot.
Predetermined was only stylistic choice not venue for new argument. All I want to say that if determinism is true then everything is determined - even dude changing all of his opinions daily, seemingly for no reason.
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