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An Argument Against Determinism
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RE: An Argument Against Determinism
(March 13, 2026 at 2:16 pm)Thumpalumpacus Wrote:
(March 13, 2026 at 2:06 pm)Disagreeable Wrote: It could just be, for example, that so-called quantum "randomness" isn't truly random but is just very, very unpredictable.

What's the difference between "random" and "unpredictable"? I'd think if determinism is true, "random" would be a null set, while "unpredictable" would simply mean we lack sufficient knowledge of the antecedents to make an accurate prediction -- or it could mean that QM is truly random. How would we be able to tease out that difference?

Well the difference is between epistemic randomness and metaphysical randomness. Epistemic randomness is just the fact that we're unable to predict something, whereas metaphysical randomness is things being uncaused and unstable in reality regardless of if we're able to predict it or not.
Schopenhauer Wrote:The intellect has become free, and in this state it does not even know or understand any other interest than that of truth.

Epicurus Wrote:The greatest reward of righteousness is peace of mind.

Epicurus Wrote:Don't fear god,
Don't worry about death;

What is good is easy to get,

What is terrible is easy to endure
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An Argument Against Determinism - by Disagreeable - March 10, 2026 at 11:50 am
RE: An Argument Against Determinism - by HappySkeptic - March 10, 2026 at 7:22 pm
RE: An Argument Against Determinism - by The Grand Nudger - March 10, 2026 at 10:36 pm
RE: An Argument Against Determinism - by Thumpalumpacus - March 11, 2026 at 12:21 am
RE: An Argument Against Determinism - by Ivan Denisovich - March 11, 2026 at 2:19 pm
RE: An Argument Against Determinism - by Thumpalumpacus - March 11, 2026 at 2:30 pm
RE: An Argument Against Determinism - by Ivan Denisovich - March 11, 2026 at 2:34 pm
RE: An Argument Against Determinism - by The Grand Nudger - March 11, 2026 at 7:53 pm
RE: An Argument Against Determinism - by Ivan Denisovich - March 11, 2026 at 11:32 pm
RE: An Argument Against Determinism - by The Grand Nudger - March 13, 2026 at 9:06 am
RE: An Argument Against Determinism - by Ivan Denisovich - March 13, 2026 at 11:19 am
RE: An Argument Against Determinism - by Thumpalumpacus - March 11, 2026 at 11:54 pm
RE: An Argument Against Determinism - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - March 12, 2026 at 11:15 am
RE: An Argument Against Determinism - by The Grand Nudger - March 13, 2026 at 9:12 am
RE: An Argument Against Determinism - by Thumpalumpacus - March 13, 2026 at 10:28 am
RE: An Argument Against Determinism - by Disagreeable - March 13, 2026 at 2:06 pm
RE: An Argument Against Determinism - by Thumpalumpacus - March 13, 2026 at 2:16 pm
RE: An Argument Against Determinism - by Disagreeable - March 13, 2026 at 2:18 pm
RE: An Argument Against Determinism - by Thumpalumpacus - March 13, 2026 at 2:38 pm
RE: An Argument Against Determinism - by Disagreeable - March 13, 2026 at 2:42 pm
RE: An Argument Against Determinism - by Thumpalumpacus - March 13, 2026 at 5:14 pm
RE: An Argument Against Determinism - by Disagreeable - March 13, 2026 at 5:15 pm
RE: An Argument Against Determinism - by Disagreeable - March 11, 2026 at 10:47 am
RE: An Argument Against Determinism - by Angrboda - March 11, 2026 at 11:36 am
RE: An Argument Against Determinism - by Thumpalumpacus - March 11, 2026 at 9:00 pm
RE: An Argument Against Determinism - by Angrboda - March 13, 2026 at 5:51 pm
RE: An Argument Against Determinism - by Paleophyte - March 13, 2026 at 7:33 pm
RE: An Argument Against Determinism - by Disagreeable - March 13, 2026 at 7:35 pm
RE: An Argument Against Determinism - by Paleophyte - March 13, 2026 at 7:47 pm
RE: An Argument Against Determinism - by The Grand Nudger - March 13, 2026 at 9:03 pm
RE: An Argument Against Determinism - by Disagreeable - March 13, 2026 at 9:11 pm

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