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An Argument Against Determinism
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RE: An Argument Against Determinism
(March 13, 2026 at 2:38 pm)Thumpalumpacus Wrote:
(March 13, 2026 at 2:18 pm)Disagreeable Wrote: Well the difference is between epistemic randomness and metaphysical randomness. Epistemic randomness is just the fact that we're unable to predict something, whereas metaphysical randomness is things being uncaused and unstable in reality regardless of if we're able to predict it or not.

Right -- but how would we actually know which one was which? I should have phrased my question better.

Good question. It's possible that we couldn't possibly know the difference despite there being one.

This goes in favor of your point of determinism being unfalsifiable. I also think that it's unfalsifiable. But I am a determinist, or a necessitarian to be more specific, because I think that there being only one possible world is more parsimonious than there being multiple possible worlds. Reality can make sense just as well without assuming that things could have happened in multiple different ways at any given moment, we don't have to assume that there is more than one way that things can go in any given moment, all we have to assume is that we're capable of imagining things going multiple different ways, even if they can't.
Schopenhauer Wrote:The intellect has become free, and in this state it does not even know or understand any other interest than that of truth.

Epicurus Wrote:The greatest reward of righteousness is peace of mind.

Epicurus Wrote:Don't fear god,
Don't worry about death;

What is good is easy to get,

What is terrible is easy to endure
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An Argument Against Determinism - by Disagreeable - March 10, 2026 at 11:50 am
RE: An Argument Against Determinism - by HappySkeptic - March 10, 2026 at 7:22 pm
RE: An Argument Against Determinism - by The Grand Nudger - March 10, 2026 at 10:36 pm
RE: An Argument Against Determinism - by Thumpalumpacus - March 11, 2026 at 12:21 am
RE: An Argument Against Determinism - by Ivan Denisovich - March 11, 2026 at 2:19 pm
RE: An Argument Against Determinism - by Thumpalumpacus - March 11, 2026 at 2:30 pm
RE: An Argument Against Determinism - by Ivan Denisovich - March 11, 2026 at 2:34 pm
RE: An Argument Against Determinism - by The Grand Nudger - March 11, 2026 at 7:53 pm
RE: An Argument Against Determinism - by Ivan Denisovich - March 11, 2026 at 11:32 pm
RE: An Argument Against Determinism - by The Grand Nudger - March 13, 2026 at 9:06 am
RE: An Argument Against Determinism - by Ivan Denisovich - March 13, 2026 at 11:19 am
RE: An Argument Against Determinism - by Thumpalumpacus - March 11, 2026 at 11:54 pm
RE: An Argument Against Determinism - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - March 12, 2026 at 11:15 am
RE: An Argument Against Determinism - by The Grand Nudger - March 13, 2026 at 9:12 am
RE: An Argument Against Determinism - by Thumpalumpacus - March 13, 2026 at 10:28 am
RE: An Argument Against Determinism - by Disagreeable - March 13, 2026 at 2:06 pm
RE: An Argument Against Determinism - by Thumpalumpacus - March 13, 2026 at 2:16 pm
RE: An Argument Against Determinism - by Disagreeable - March 13, 2026 at 2:18 pm
RE: An Argument Against Determinism - by Thumpalumpacus - March 13, 2026 at 2:38 pm
RE: An Argument Against Determinism - by Disagreeable - March 13, 2026 at 2:42 pm
RE: An Argument Against Determinism - by Thumpalumpacus - March 13, 2026 at 5:14 pm
RE: An Argument Against Determinism - by Disagreeable - March 13, 2026 at 5:15 pm
RE: An Argument Against Determinism - by Disagreeable - March 11, 2026 at 10:47 am
RE: An Argument Against Determinism - by Angrboda - March 11, 2026 at 11:36 am
RE: An Argument Against Determinism - by Thumpalumpacus - March 11, 2026 at 9:00 pm
RE: An Argument Against Determinism - by Angrboda - March 13, 2026 at 5:51 pm
RE: An Argument Against Determinism - by Paleophyte - March 13, 2026 at 7:33 pm
RE: An Argument Against Determinism - by Disagreeable - March 13, 2026 at 7:35 pm
RE: An Argument Against Determinism - by Paleophyte - March 13, 2026 at 7:47 pm
RE: An Argument Against Determinism - by The Grand Nudger - March 13, 2026 at 9:03 pm
RE: An Argument Against Determinism - by Disagreeable - March 13, 2026 at 9:11 pm

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