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RE: Veganism
March 26, 2026 at 1:57 am (This post was last modified: March 26, 2026 at 1:57 am by Thumpalumpacus.)
(March 26, 2026 at 1:19 am)The Grand Nudger Wrote: It's harmful to the cow, we'd agree, regardless of whether or not the tree does or even can think so.  Thus, mind independent in the manner intended.

My point, since you seem determined to avoid it, is that without a mind to apprehend morality, how is there morality at all? Morality requires thinking. Yet this "moral realism" construct relies upon morality being independent of minds. Without a mind, what is making any judgement?

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Veganism - by Disagreeable - March 13, 2026 at 1:04 pm
RE: Veganism - by Mister Agenda - March 13, 2026 at 1:10 pm
RE: Veganism - by Disagreeable - March 13, 2026 at 1:32 pm
RE: Veganism - by Angrboda - March 13, 2026 at 1:40 pm
RE: Veganism - by Disagreeable - March 13, 2026 at 1:53 pm
RE: Veganism - by Angrboda - March 13, 2026 at 1:57 pm
RE: Veganism - by Disagreeable - March 13, 2026 at 2:00 pm
RE: Veganism - by Angrboda - March 13, 2026 at 2:02 pm
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RE: Veganism - by Angrboda - March 13, 2026 at 2:06 pm
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RE: Veganism - by Angrboda - March 13, 2026 at 2:12 pm
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RE: Veganism - by Angrboda - March 13, 2026 at 2:22 pm
RE: Veganism - by Disagreeable - March 13, 2026 at 2:28 pm
RE: Veganism - by Angrboda - March 13, 2026 at 2:44 pm
RE: Veganism - by Disagreeable - March 13, 2026 at 2:51 pm
RE: Veganism - by Angrboda - March 13, 2026 at 3:45 pm
RE: Veganism - by Disagreeable - March 13, 2026 at 4:25 pm
RE: Veganism - by Angrboda - March 13, 2026 at 5:47 pm
RE: Veganism - by Disagreeable - March 13, 2026 at 6:04 pm
RE: Veganism - by Angrboda - March 13, 2026 at 6:47 pm
RE: Veganism - by Disagreeable - March 13, 2026 at 6:48 pm
RE: Veganism - by Angrboda - March 13, 2026 at 6:53 pm
RE: Veganism - by Disagreeable - March 13, 2026 at 6:54 pm
RE: Veganism - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - March 13, 2026 at 7:08 pm
RE: Veganism - by Disagreeable - March 13, 2026 at 6:59 pm
RE: Veganism - by Belacqua - March 13, 2026 at 8:02 pm
RE: Veganism - by Disagreeable - March 13, 2026 at 8:07 pm
RE: Veganism - by Disagreeable - March 13, 2026 at 6:27 pm
RE: Veganism - by Disagreeable - March 13, 2026 at 3:01 pm
RE: Veganism - by Angrboda - March 13, 2026 at 3:55 pm
RE: Veganism - by Disagreeable - March 13, 2026 at 4:01 pm
RE: Veganism - by Fake Messiah - March 13, 2026 at 4:04 pm
RE: Veganism - by Disagreeable - March 13, 2026 at 4:51 pm
RE: Veganism - by Thumpalumpacus - March 13, 2026 at 5:25 pm
RE: Veganism - by Disagreeable - March 13, 2026 at 5:32 pm
RE: Veganism - by Fake Messiah - March 13, 2026 at 5:33 pm
RE: Veganism - by Disagreeable - March 13, 2026 at 5:38 pm
RE: Veganism - by Fake Messiah - March 14, 2026 at 2:57 am
RE: Veganism - by Disagreeable - March 14, 2026 at 9:43 am
RE: Veganism - by Fake Messiah - March 14, 2026 at 10:09 am
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RE: Veganism - by Angrboda - March 14, 2026 at 1:21 pm
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RE: Veganism - by Disagreeable - March 14, 2026 at 3:46 pm
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RE: Veganism - by Angrboda - March 14, 2026 at 4:40 pm
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RE: Veganism - by Angrboda - March 14, 2026 at 5:41 pm
RE: Veganism - by Disagreeable - March 14, 2026 at 5:49 pm
RE: Veganism - by Angrboda - March 14, 2026 at 5:55 pm
RE: Veganism - by Disagreeable - March 14, 2026 at 5:59 pm
RE: Veganism - by Fake Messiah - March 15, 2026 at 3:26 pm
RE: Veganism - by Ivan Denisovich - March 14, 2026 at 10:37 am
RE: Veganism - by Disagreeable - March 14, 2026 at 11:50 am
RE: Veganism - by Fake Messiah - March 14, 2026 at 12:02 pm
RE: Veganism - by Disagreeable - March 14, 2026 at 12:03 pm
RE: Veganism - by Fake Messiah - March 14, 2026 at 12:12 pm
RE: Veganism - by Ivan Denisovich - March 14, 2026 at 12:03 pm
RE: Veganism - by Disagreeable - March 14, 2026 at 12:04 pm
RE: Veganism - by Ivan Denisovich - March 14, 2026 at 12:19 pm
RE: Veganism - by Disagreeable - March 14, 2026 at 12:21 pm
RE: Veganism - by Thumpalumpacus - March 13, 2026 at 11:01 pm
RE: Veganism - by Disagreeable - March 14, 2026 at 9:41 am
RE: Veganism - by Thumpalumpacus - March 14, 2026 at 9:48 am
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RE: Veganism - by Thumpalumpacus - March 14, 2026 at 12:13 pm
RE: Veganism - by Belacqua - March 14, 2026 at 12:19 pm
RE: Veganism - by Disagreeable - March 14, 2026 at 12:26 pm
RE: Veganism - by Angrboda - March 14, 2026 at 1:34 pm
RE: Veganism - by Disagreeable - March 14, 2026 at 1:35 pm
RE: Veganism - by Thumpalumpacus - March 14, 2026 at 12:22 pm
RE: Veganism - by Disagreeable - March 13, 2026 at 2:20 pm
RE: Veganism - by Disagreeable - March 13, 2026 at 2:09 pm
RE: Veganism - by Jackalope - March 13, 2026 at 1:42 pm
RE: Veganism - by Angrboda - March 13, 2026 at 1:50 pm
RE: Veganism - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - March 13, 2026 at 1:52 pm
RE: Veganism - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - March 13, 2026 at 1:48 pm
RE: Veganism - by Mister Agenda - March 13, 2026 at 1:54 pm
RE: Veganism - by Disagreeable - March 13, 2026 at 1:58 pm
RE: Veganism - by Disagreeable - March 13, 2026 at 2:11 pm
RE: Veganism - by Disagreeable - March 13, 2026 at 2:37 pm
RE: Veganism - by Fake Messiah - March 13, 2026 at 3:14 pm
RE: Veganism - by Disagreeable - March 13, 2026 at 3:36 pm
RE: Veganism - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - March 13, 2026 at 5:02 pm
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RE: Veganism - by Paleophyte - March 13, 2026 at 7:28 pm
RE: Veganism - by Disagreeable - March 13, 2026 at 7:30 pm
RE: Veganism - by Paleophyte - March 13, 2026 at 7:32 pm
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RE: Veganism - by Paleophyte - March 13, 2026 at 7:36 pm
RE: Veganism - by Disagreeable - March 13, 2026 at 7:38 pm
RE: Veganism - by Paleophyte - March 13, 2026 at 7:44 pm
RE: Veganism - by Disagreeable - March 13, 2026 at 7:53 pm
RE: Veganism - by Paleophyte - March 13, 2026 at 8:20 pm
RE: Veganism - by Disagreeable - March 13, 2026 at 8:44 pm
RE: Veganism - by Paleophyte - March 13, 2026 at 8:46 pm
RE: Veganism - by Disagreeable - March 13, 2026 at 8:50 pm
RE: Veganism - by Paleophyte - March 13, 2026 at 9:18 pm
RE: Veganism - by Disagreeable - March 13, 2026 at 10:12 pm
RE: Veganism - by Paleophyte - March 13, 2026 at 11:18 pm
RE: Veganism - by Disagreeable - March 14, 2026 at 9:42 am
RE: Veganism - by The Valkyrie - March 13, 2026 at 9:20 pm
RE: Veganism - by Fireball - March 13, 2026 at 9:26 pm
RE: Veganism - by The Valkyrie - March 14, 2026 at 3:26 am
RE: Veganism - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - March 14, 2026 at 4:51 am
RE: Veganism - by Angrboda - March 13, 2026 at 10:11 pm
RE: Veganism - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - March 14, 2026 at 11:13 am
RE: Veganism - by Disagreeable - March 14, 2026 at 12:58 pm
RE: Veganism - by Thumpalumpacus - March 14, 2026 at 1:30 pm
RE: Veganism - by Disagreeable - March 14, 2026 at 1:32 pm
RE: Veganism - by Angrboda - March 14, 2026 at 2:39 pm
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RE: Veganism - by Angrboda - March 14, 2026 at 2:55 pm
RE: Veganism - by Disagreeable - March 14, 2026 at 2:59 pm
RE: Veganism - by The Grand Nudger - March 14, 2026 at 4:12 pm
RE: Veganism - by Disagreeable - March 14, 2026 at 4:14 pm
RE: Veganism - by The Grand Nudger - March 14, 2026 at 5:40 pm
RE: Veganism - by Disagreeable - March 14, 2026 at 5:53 pm
RE: Veganism - by The Grand Nudger - March 14, 2026 at 6:08 pm
RE: Veganism - by Disagreeable - March 15, 2026 at 3:56 pm
RE: Veganism - by Fake Messiah - March 15, 2026 at 4:43 pm
RE: Veganism - by Disagreeable - March 16, 2026 at 11:57 am
RE: Veganism - by Paleophyte - March 15, 2026 at 6:18 pm
RE: Veganism - by Disagreeable - March 16, 2026 at 11:58 am
RE: Veganism - by Paleophyte - March 16, 2026 at 1:18 pm
RE: Veganism - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - March 16, 2026 at 1:41 pm
RE: Veganism - by Disagreeable - March 16, 2026 at 1:41 pm
RE: Veganism - by Paleophyte - March 16, 2026 at 5:32 pm
RE: Veganism - by Disagreeable - March 16, 2026 at 6:57 pm
RE: Veganism - by Thumpalumpacus - March 16, 2026 at 7:01 pm
RE: Veganism - by Disagreeable - March 16, 2026 at 7:19 pm
RE: Veganism - by Thumpalumpacus - March 16, 2026 at 11:56 pm
RE: Veganism - by The Grand Nudger - March 17, 2026 at 8:54 am
RE: Veganism - by Thumpalumpacus - March 17, 2026 at 10:03 am
RE: Veganism - by The Grand Nudger - March 17, 2026 at 2:39 pm
RE: Veganism - by Paleophyte - March 17, 2026 at 4:20 am
RE: Veganism - by The Grand Nudger - March 17, 2026 at 8:56 am
RE: Veganism - by Disagreeable - March 17, 2026 at 11:46 am
RE: Veganism - by Thumpalumpacus - March 17, 2026 at 12:17 pm
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RE: Veganism - by Thumpalumpacus - March 17, 2026 at 12:36 pm
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RE: Veganism - by Thumpalumpacus - March 17, 2026 at 2:43 pm
RE: Veganism - by Disagreeable - March 17, 2026 at 11:45 am
RE: Veganism - by Paleophyte - March 17, 2026 at 3:06 pm
RE: Veganism - by Disagreeable - March 17, 2026 at 3:39 pm
RE: Veganism - by Paleophyte - March 17, 2026 at 4:02 pm
RE: Veganism - by Disagreeable - March 17, 2026 at 5:53 pm
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RE: Veganism - by Belacqua - March 17, 2026 at 9:25 pm
RE: Veganism - by Paleophyte - March 17, 2026 at 9:53 pm
RE: Veganism - by Disagreeable - March 18, 2026 at 2:50 pm
RE: Veganism - by Paleophyte - March 18, 2026 at 5:20 pm
RE: Veganism - by Disagreeable - March 18, 2026 at 6:44 pm
RE: Veganism - by Paleophyte - March 19, 2026 at 7:35 am
RE: Veganism - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - March 19, 2026 at 11:26 am
RE: Veganism - by Thumpalumpacus - March 19, 2026 at 12:02 pm
RE: Veganism - by Paleophyte - March 19, 2026 at 6:15 pm
RE: Veganism - by Thumpalumpacus - March 19, 2026 at 10:46 pm
RE: Veganism - by Disagreeable - March 19, 2026 at 3:20 pm
RE: Veganism - by Paleophyte - March 19, 2026 at 6:17 pm
RE: Veganism - by Disagreeable - March 20, 2026 at 7:59 am
RE: Veganism - by Fake Messiah - March 20, 2026 at 9:10 am
RE: Veganism - by The Grand Nudger - March 20, 2026 at 6:46 pm
RE: Veganism - by Disagreeable - March 22, 2026 at 7:14 pm
RE: Veganism - by Paleophyte - March 21, 2026 at 4:54 pm
RE: Veganism - by The Grand Nudger - March 21, 2026 at 7:22 pm
RE: Veganism - by Paleophyte - March 21, 2026 at 7:31 pm
RE: Veganism - by Thumpalumpacus - March 21, 2026 at 8:49 pm
RE: Veganism - by Disagreeable - March 22, 2026 at 7:19 pm
RE: Veganism - by Thumpalumpacus - March 22, 2026 at 7:51 pm
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RE: Veganism - by Paleophyte - March 22, 2026 at 8:24 pm
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RE: Veganism - by Disagreeable - March 23, 2026 at 2:27 pm
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RE: Veganism - by Thumpalumpacus - March 23, 2026 at 6:09 pm
RE: Veganism - by Disagreeable - April 7, 2026 at 5:59 am
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RE: Veganism - by Paleophyte - March 19, 2026 at 6:20 pm
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RE: Veganism - by Disagreeable - March 22, 2026 at 7:18 pm
RE: Veganism - by Disagreeable - March 17, 2026 at 11:55 am
RE: Veganism - by The Grand Nudger - March 15, 2026 at 8:17 pm
RE: Veganism - by Thumpalumpacus - March 15, 2026 at 11:21 pm
RE: Veganism - by The Grand Nudger - March 15, 2026 at 11:36 pm
RE: Veganism - by Thumpalumpacus - March 16, 2026 at 12:30 am
RE: Veganism - by Fake Messiah - March 16, 2026 at 4:01 am
RE: Veganism - by The Grand Nudger - March 16, 2026 at 9:55 am
RE: Veganism - by Thumpalumpacus - March 16, 2026 at 2:18 pm
RE: Veganism - by Disagreeable - March 16, 2026 at 2:31 pm
RE: Veganism - by Thumpalumpacus - March 16, 2026 at 3:20 pm
RE: Veganism - by Mister Agenda - March 16, 2026 at 2:25 pm
RE: Veganism - by Thumpalumpacus - March 16, 2026 at 2:27 pm
RE: Veganism - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - March 16, 2026 at 3:31 pm
RE: Veganism - by Thumpalumpacus - March 16, 2026 at 3:47 pm
RE: Veganism - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - March 16, 2026 at 5:09 pm
RE: Veganism - by The Grand Nudger - March 16, 2026 at 7:12 pm
RE: Veganism - by awty - March 16, 2026 at 7:49 pm
RE: Veganism - by The Grand Nudger - March 16, 2026 at 9:03 pm
RE: Veganism - by Angrboda - March 16, 2026 at 9:38 pm
RE: Veganism - by Fireball - March 17, 2026 at 12:57 pm
RE: Veganism - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - March 17, 2026 at 1:23 pm
RE: Veganism - by Angrboda - March 17, 2026 at 1:38 pm
RE: Veganism - by Mister Agenda - March 17, 2026 at 1:46 pm
RE: Veganism - by awty - March 17, 2026 at 1:24 pm
RE: Veganism - by The Grand Nudger - March 17, 2026 at 5:10 pm
RE: Veganism - by The Grand Nudger - March 17, 2026 at 6:26 pm
RE: Veganism - by Thumpalumpacus - March 17, 2026 at 6:50 pm
RE: Veganism - by The Grand Nudger - March 17, 2026 at 7:05 pm
RE: Veganism - by Thumpalumpacus - March 17, 2026 at 9:12 pm
RE: Veganism - by The Grand Nudger - March 17, 2026 at 11:29 pm
RE: Veganism - by Jackalope - March 18, 2026 at 6:48 pm
RE: Veganism - by The Grand Nudger - March 18, 2026 at 11:53 pm
RE: Veganism - by Disagreeable - March 19, 2026 at 5:10 pm
RE: Veganism - by The Grand Nudger - March 19, 2026 at 7:25 pm
RE: Veganism - by Thumpalumpacus - March 19, 2026 at 10:59 pm
RE: Veganism - by Paleophyte - March 20, 2026 at 12:47 am
RE: Veganism - by The Grand Nudger - March 20, 2026 at 6:40 pm
RE: Veganism - by Paleophyte - March 21, 2026 at 5:06 pm
RE: Veganism - by The Grand Nudger - March 21, 2026 at 7:26 pm
RE: Veganism - by Nay_Sayer - March 20, 2026 at 12:03 pm
RE: Veganism - by The Grand Nudger - March 21, 2026 at 7:46 pm
RE: Veganism - by Paleophyte - March 22, 2026 at 8:14 pm
RE: Veganism - by Thumpalumpacus - March 22, 2026 at 8:20 pm
RE: Veganism - by The Grand Nudger - March 23, 2026 at 7:48 pm
RE: Veganism - by Paleophyte - March 23, 2026 at 8:02 pm
RE: Veganism - by The Grand Nudger - March 23, 2026 at 8:17 pm
RE: Veganism - by Paleophyte - March 23, 2026 at 8:37 pm
RE: Veganism - by Paleophyte - March 23, 2026 at 8:05 pm
RE: Veganism - by The Grand Nudger - March 23, 2026 at 8:12 pm
RE: Veganism - by Thumpalumpacus - March 22, 2026 at 10:13 pm
RE: Veganism - by Fake Messiah - March 22, 2026 at 10:37 pm
RE: Veganism - by The Grand Nudger - March 23, 2026 at 8:06 pm
RE: Veganism - by Paleophyte - March 23, 2026 at 8:16 pm
RE: Veganism - by The Grand Nudger - March 23, 2026 at 9:49 pm
RE: Veganism - by The Grand Nudger - March 23, 2026 at 7:54 pm
RE: Veganism - by Thumpalumpacus - March 23, 2026 at 11:30 pm
RE: Veganism - by Fake Messiah - March 24, 2026 at 5:51 am
RE: Veganism - by The Grand Nudger - March 24, 2026 at 8:24 pm
RE: Veganism - by The Grand Nudger - March 24, 2026 at 8:14 pm
RE: Veganism - by Thumpalumpacus - March 23, 2026 at 1:54 am
RE: Veganism - by Paleophyte - March 23, 2026 at 2:48 am
RE: Veganism - by awty - March 23, 2026 at 3:04 pm
RE: Veganism - by Thumpalumpacus - March 24, 2026 at 8:30 pm
RE: Veganism - by The Grand Nudger - March 24, 2026 at 9:25 pm
RE: Veganism - by Thumpalumpacus - March 24, 2026 at 10:18 pm
RE: Veganism - by The Grand Nudger - March 24, 2026 at 10:57 pm
RE: Veganism - by Thumpalumpacus - March 24, 2026 at 11:42 pm
RE: Veganism - by The Grand Nudger - March 25, 2026 at 9:31 am
RE: Veganism - by Thumpalumpacus - March 25, 2026 at 9:42 am
RE: Veganism - by The Grand Nudger - March 25, 2026 at 10:10 am
RE: Veganism - by Thumpalumpacus - March 25, 2026 at 11:42 am
RE: Veganism - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - March 25, 2026 at 12:13 pm
RE: Veganism - by The Grand Nudger - March 25, 2026 at 4:07 pm
RE: Veganism - by The Grand Nudger - March 25, 2026 at 10:34 am
RE: Veganism - by Angrboda - March 25, 2026 at 10:55 am
RE: Veganism - by The Grand Nudger - March 25, 2026 at 4:01 pm
RE: Veganism - by The Grand Nudger - March 25, 2026 at 4:47 pm
RE: Veganism - by Thumpalumpacus - March 25, 2026 at 5:23 pm
RE: Veganism - by The Grand Nudger - March 25, 2026 at 6:00 pm
RE: Veganism - by Thumpalumpacus - March 25, 2026 at 6:41 pm
RE: Veganism - by The Grand Nudger - March 25, 2026 at 7:05 pm
RE: Veganism - by Thumpalumpacus - March 25, 2026 at 10:21 pm
RE: Veganism - by The Grand Nudger - March 25, 2026 at 10:41 pm
RE: Veganism - by Thumpalumpacus - March 26, 2026 at 12:52 am
RE: Veganism - by The Grand Nudger - March 26, 2026 at 1:19 am
RE: Veganism - by Thumpalumpacus - March 26, 2026 at 1:57 am
RE: Veganism - by The Grand Nudger - March 26, 2026 at 2:31 am
RE: Veganism - by Thumpalumpacus - March 26, 2026 at 9:56 am
RE: Veganism - by The Grand Nudger - March 26, 2026 at 1:21 pm
RE: Veganism - by Thumpalumpacus - March 26, 2026 at 3:27 pm
RE: Veganism - by The Grand Nudger - March 26, 2026 at 4:33 pm
RE: Veganism - by Thumpalumpacus - March 26, 2026 at 4:41 pm
RE: Veganism - by The Grand Nudger - March 26, 2026 at 5:05 pm
RE: Veganism - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - April 7, 2026 at 6:13 am
RE: Veganism - by Thumpalumpacus - April 7, 2026 at 9:59 am
RE: Veganism - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - April 7, 2026 at 12:08 pm

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