RE: Argument against atheism
January 14, 2012 at 10:09 am
(This post was last modified: January 14, 2012 at 10:15 am by The Grand Nudger.)
@The whole "you can't prove that you exist".
I see no reason to do so. I can accept that everything I perceive may be an illusion (we do have evidence that suggests that a great deal of what any human being perceives is exactly that). I exist at least within this illusion, and the god this guy is arguing for does not, again, at least within this illusion. So, what are we talking about here? An illusion within an illusion? Lies stacked upon lies...lol. Appealing to solipsism as a defense of ones inability to successfully make the case for their god just puts the arguer in an even worse position. As a defense of presuppositionalism (which I've seen it offered) it also fails. I do not need to presuppose my own factual existence to make observations about this illusory world. I'm an illusion making observations about the illusion, next? Perhaps our observations are illusions? No problem, I am an illusion, part of a larger collective illusion called us, that make illusory observations about our common illusion, which itself may be an illusion of an illusion...down the rabbit hole we go.....with each step it just gets worse and worse for those arguing for the illusion of god. At no point does an appeal to solipsism make anything more "real", quite the reverse.
I see no reason to do so. I can accept that everything I perceive may be an illusion (we do have evidence that suggests that a great deal of what any human being perceives is exactly that). I exist at least within this illusion, and the god this guy is arguing for does not, again, at least within this illusion. So, what are we talking about here? An illusion within an illusion? Lies stacked upon lies...lol. Appealing to solipsism as a defense of ones inability to successfully make the case for their god just puts the arguer in an even worse position. As a defense of presuppositionalism (which I've seen it offered) it also fails. I do not need to presuppose my own factual existence to make observations about this illusory world. I'm an illusion making observations about the illusion, next? Perhaps our observations are illusions? No problem, I am an illusion, part of a larger collective illusion called us, that make illusory observations about our common illusion, which itself may be an illusion of an illusion...down the rabbit hole we go.....with each step it just gets worse and worse for those arguing for the illusion of god. At no point does an appeal to solipsism make anything more "real", quite the reverse.
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