Rev Jerry wrote
You have been duped into the zeit movement, which uses a lie to spread a good goal for humanity.
Oh.. I thought you were talking about Christianity there.
[quote='reverendjeremiah' pid='232752' dateline='1327761473']
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I am aware of the Zeit movie and how much of a conspiracy theory it is and how easy it is to debunk it. I am also aware of the RBE, which is nothing more than Anarcho-syndicalism (otherwsie known as "techno-anarchy") with a new, more modern name.
What part of the Zeit movie are you refering to as a "conspiracy theory that is easy to debunk? That Christ actually was real instead of never having existed and being an astrological myth? That 9/11 WASN'T an obvious inside job??? That the Fed Reserve is legit??? And has it EVER crossed your mind that these "debunking facts" are actually in themselves just false, feeble attempts to cover up the propaganda and lies our corrupt government wants us to blindly believe? Just like Christian apologetics who try to "prove atheism wrong" by passing some biblical information or "Christain fact" as something that debunks atheism... Please, it seems you do not have the capacity to discern political and media deception from deeper, more controversial truth. 9/ 11 was another false flag operation in a line of many historical others (Gulf of Tonkin Incident-Vietnam, Pearl Harbor- WWII, sinking of Lusitania-WWI) to get us in the current mess in the Middle East for oil and other profitable resources for corporate control. Iran is the next OBVIOUS target on our hitlist. (WWIII in the next decade, perhaps, hope not.)
His "investigations" are nothing of the sort. In fact a popular website created by a supported of RBE has made the same complaints I just did, and he walks you through the movie claim by claim.
http://conspiracies.skepticproject.com/a...zeitgeist/
I will check out this site altough I have seen most of the Debunking material on Zeit film already and found it to be very trite and inconsequential to the bigger picture. For example, they many times focus on one small trivial detail in a whole laundry list of conspiratorial evidence and say that it is somewhat distorted and too liberally interpreted and so therefore the whole entire theory is wrong. And 90% of the time, the thing they are focusing on is periphrial and mostly inconsequential anyways in the first place! And that's if the debunking evidence is even true in itself! It is usually some lame rhetoric that is spun up to just create furthur confusion and doubt. In other words, it is further propagandizing.
[quote]Know the facts people and quit being so damn pessimistic! Pessimism is a self fulfilling prophecy. Yet so is optimism. If you don't at least believe that fact of consciousness, then you will be a victim of it in the end. Karma is a bitch. [/quote]
I clearly know the facts, and have pointed out that you are pushing conspiracy theories as fact. You have been duped into the zeit movement, which uses a lie to spread a good goal for humanity. I am opposed to such lies. You should be too if you are concerned with facts.
Just because people call it a 'conspiracy theory' does not mean that it is not true. Evolution is a theory. Do you not believe in evolution? Keep in mind the BIG picture! If you on one hand say that mega corporations run America but on the other hand say, "NO!", 9/11 could never have been staged for corporate interests and the military-industrial complex, is very contradictory, don't you think? Look at Halliburton, just another coincidence out of a sea of virtually hundreds????? Look at the physics of the collapses, WTC bldg #7, fuck the "official story"! That's a load of shit just like Christianity and the entire Bible is a complete load of shit!
Now you say, no government= no corporitism. Yet how about LESS government= LESS corporitism, would that not be a step in the right direction? This is exactly what Ron Paul wants!
Who cares about abortion, that's gonna stay the same, Civil Rights Act, outdated, don't need it anymore anyway even IF he got rid of it. In general, Americans are not as prejudiced and fearfully rascist as they were in the 1930's. Just fucking hire people according to skills and experience. What rational business owner gives a shit what color they are nowadays? The person most qualified gets the job...simple.
Dept of Education, whatever, it is a government waste that accomplishes nothing anyway. Plus these 3 issues, C.R act, abortion and dept shutdowns are periphery and not as central or pressing as the sad state of the economy or our dysfunctional and very expensive foriegn policy of preventive war mongering. And if not Ron Paul for president then who? Obama? What substantial good has he done for the middle class in the past 4 years? Hmm... I see nada.
You have been duped into the zeit movement, which uses a lie to spread a good goal for humanity.
Oh.. I thought you were talking about Christianity there.
[quote='reverendjeremiah' pid='232752' dateline='1327761473']
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I am aware of the Zeit movie and how much of a conspiracy theory it is and how easy it is to debunk it. I am also aware of the RBE, which is nothing more than Anarcho-syndicalism (otherwsie known as "techno-anarchy") with a new, more modern name.
What part of the Zeit movie are you refering to as a "conspiracy theory that is easy to debunk? That Christ actually was real instead of never having existed and being an astrological myth? That 9/11 WASN'T an obvious inside job??? That the Fed Reserve is legit??? And has it EVER crossed your mind that these "debunking facts" are actually in themselves just false, feeble attempts to cover up the propaganda and lies our corrupt government wants us to blindly believe? Just like Christian apologetics who try to "prove atheism wrong" by passing some biblical information or "Christain fact" as something that debunks atheism... Please, it seems you do not have the capacity to discern political and media deception from deeper, more controversial truth. 9/ 11 was another false flag operation in a line of many historical others (Gulf of Tonkin Incident-Vietnam, Pearl Harbor- WWII, sinking of Lusitania-WWI) to get us in the current mess in the Middle East for oil and other profitable resources for corporate control. Iran is the next OBVIOUS target on our hitlist. (WWIII in the next decade, perhaps, hope not.)
His "investigations" are nothing of the sort. In fact a popular website created by a supported of RBE has made the same complaints I just did, and he walks you through the movie claim by claim.
http://conspiracies.skepticproject.com/a...zeitgeist/
I will check out this site altough I have seen most of the Debunking material on Zeit film already and found it to be very trite and inconsequential to the bigger picture. For example, they many times focus on one small trivial detail in a whole laundry list of conspiratorial evidence and say that it is somewhat distorted and too liberally interpreted and so therefore the whole entire theory is wrong. And 90% of the time, the thing they are focusing on is periphrial and mostly inconsequential anyways in the first place! And that's if the debunking evidence is even true in itself! It is usually some lame rhetoric that is spun up to just create furthur confusion and doubt. In other words, it is further propagandizing.
[quote]Know the facts people and quit being so damn pessimistic! Pessimism is a self fulfilling prophecy. Yet so is optimism. If you don't at least believe that fact of consciousness, then you will be a victim of it in the end. Karma is a bitch. [/quote]
I clearly know the facts, and have pointed out that you are pushing conspiracy theories as fact. You have been duped into the zeit movement, which uses a lie to spread a good goal for humanity. I am opposed to such lies. You should be too if you are concerned with facts.
Just because people call it a 'conspiracy theory' does not mean that it is not true. Evolution is a theory. Do you not believe in evolution? Keep in mind the BIG picture! If you on one hand say that mega corporations run America but on the other hand say, "NO!", 9/11 could never have been staged for corporate interests and the military-industrial complex, is very contradictory, don't you think? Look at Halliburton, just another coincidence out of a sea of virtually hundreds????? Look at the physics of the collapses, WTC bldg #7, fuck the "official story"! That's a load of shit just like Christianity and the entire Bible is a complete load of shit!
Now you say, no government= no corporitism. Yet how about LESS government= LESS corporitism, would that not be a step in the right direction? This is exactly what Ron Paul wants!
Who cares about abortion, that's gonna stay the same, Civil Rights Act, outdated, don't need it anymore anyway even IF he got rid of it. In general, Americans are not as prejudiced and fearfully rascist as they were in the 1930's. Just fucking hire people according to skills and experience. What rational business owner gives a shit what color they are nowadays? The person most qualified gets the job...simple.
Dept of Education, whatever, it is a government waste that accomplishes nothing anyway. Plus these 3 issues, C.R act, abortion and dept shutdowns are periphery and not as central or pressing as the sad state of the economy or our dysfunctional and very expensive foriegn policy of preventive war mongering. And if not Ron Paul for president then who? Obama? What substantial good has he done for the middle class in the past 4 years? Hmm... I see nada.
You, yourself, as much as anybody in the entire universe, deserve your love and affection.
There are only two mistakes one can make along the road to truth; not going all the way, and not starting.
Buddha
There are only two mistakes one can make along the road to truth; not going all the way, and not starting.
Buddha
