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Can bible really be interpreted as if there is no torment but you cease to exist
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RE: Can bible really be interpreted as if there is no torment but you cease to exist
(February 5, 2012 at 12:02 am)Undeceived Wrote: Hell is a spiritual place, not one God has to go out of His way to create. The torment we receive would be within our souls, not external fire. And by rejecting God, we have chosen it. He gave us free will. This life is meant to divide people who are grateful for God's creating them and those who are not. If you are not grateful, you don't want to be in heaven anyway. You'd rather be sent to hell.

Hello Undeceived.
If I understand this correctly, Hell isn't a real place with fire and brimstone - it is just somewhere in your head. Did I get that right?
Heaven on the other hand, according to you, is a real place that you actually WANT to go to. Did I get that right?

I have two questions.
1. Why do you choose to believe that hell is just a spiritual place inside your head but heaven is actually a real place?

2. Assuming you go to heaven, how do you imagine spending eternity? Bear in mind that there may be some restrictions on sex, especially with multiple partners or same sex partners or even by yourself, you may even have the pleasure of healthy lust removed from you. There is no apparent plan to procreate and bring up children, no need to work, plan, build, create, invent, experiment, learn, travel, there may be some restrictions on alcohol, gluttony, drugs, etc and even if you can get a TV signal up there, you will probably get a bit fed up with all the repeats over eternity. You can probably learn to play the harp and I do hear that you get plenty of time to worship God. Is that your plan for eternity?

I suggest you read Mark Twain's book, 'Captain Stormfield's Visit to Heaven". It raises a few problems with the concept of heaven.
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RE: Can bible really be interpreted as if there is no torment but you cease to exist - by Aardverk - February 5, 2012 at 5:28 am

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