More Ron Bashing

[reverendjeremiah]

Here I am, on Youtube, trying desperatley to explain to the Ron Paul supporters how the system works, yet they scream and foam at the mouth to me that i am a complete dumb ass when it comes to civics. The Department of Education Organization Act was created by congress and the senate in 1980. The president just cant walk right into his office and say "I am shutting down the dept of education"

Half of the Ron Paul supporters flat out claim that Ron Paul can shut down the Dept of education with a swipe of his hand. And no matter how many links I send them explaining how our checks and balances work they would rather tell me that I am the one who is uneducated.

The other half say that Paul would shut it down by firing all of the employees for these departments he wants to shut down. And because I dont agree with that then I am a stupid anti-constitutionalist.

Ron Paul just cant fire the entire staff of a government department and not replace it. Sure, he can REPLACE a handful of people in recess appointments, but our Legislative branch has this thing called "comittees" that oversee the departments that have been created through legislative acts. How long do you think congress will allow these departments to be unmanned before they come together and start appointing employees to fill in the legislated postitions? How long do you think this would carry on before congress brought Paul up for trial for failing to follow his constitutional duties?

Article 2, Section 2, clause 1 of the constitution says "The President is the military's commander-in-chief; however Article One gives Congress and not the President the authority to declare war."

Article 2, Section 2, Clause 2 of the constitution says: "He shall have Power, by and with the Advice and Consent of the Senate, to make Treaties, provided two thirds of the Senators present concur; and he shall nominate, and by and with the Advice and Consent of the Senate, shall appoint Ambassadors, other public Ministers and Consuls, Judges of the supreme Court, and all other Officers of the United States, whose Appointments are not herein otherwise provided for, and which shall be established by Law: but the Congress may by Law vest the Appointment of such inferior Officers, as they think proper, in the President alone, in the Courts of Law, or in the Heads of Departments."

- We are at "war", officially, with "terror". This war was encated by a constitutionally acceptable vote of congress. Ron Paul cannot constitutionally stop this war by himself without the ADVICE and CONSENT of 2/3rds of the SENATE...so his claims that he will stop the war are false. Obama claimed he would stop the war, has he done it yet? No. Because he cant do that according tothe Constitution.

Article 2, Section 2, clause 3 of the constitution says: "The President shall have Power to fill up all Vacancies that may happen during the Recess of the Senate, by granting Commissions which shall expire at the End of their next Session."

-This means that even though the president has the power to hire and fire people in SOME departments, that he MUST, by the constitution, "fill up vacancies" even if it is done in recess. I hve heard many Paul supporters say that Paul can shut down all of these govt departments when congress is in recess. I have also been called un-american and stupid for pointing out their error. If Paul did something that HUGE, congress would come together and make a BIG media stink about it. They would then OVER RIDE Paul's wishes and follow the constitution by filling vacancies that Paul refused to fill. Ron Paul would then be brought up on charges for failing in his executive duties.

Article 2, section 3: "He shall from time to time give to the Congress Information of the State of the Union, and recommend to their Consideration such Measures as he shall judge necessary and expedient; he may, on extraordinary Occasions, convene both Houses, or either of them, and in Case of Disagreement between them, with Respect to the Time of Adjournment, he may adjourn them to such Time as he shall think proper; he shall receive Ambassadors and other public Ministers; he shall take Care that the Laws be faithfully executed, and shall Commission all the Officers of the United States."

- the president MUST fullfil the wishes of the Legislative branch, who are supposed to be the representatives of the people, by the people, and for the people. The president is not some king or dictator.

Here is the Department of education organization act of 1980 as approved by congress as PUBLIC LAW.
http://history.nih.gov/research/downloads/PL96-88.pdf

If Ron Paul fires everyone in this department, and tries to shut it down either during congress or as a recess, you will see congress come together, over ride him, and reappoint everyone he fired as fast as you can say "Impeachment".

Now, I am sick and tired of Libertarians claiming I dont know the constitution, or that I am stupid for not supporting Ron Paul. Now that I have shown those Ron Paul supporters on this forum what the constitution says, allow me once again to show Ron Pauls most famous advertisement:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MXCZVmQ74OA

Now that you have actually SEEN the constitution, you have to admit that everything in this commercial is a complete fabrication. Ron Paul isnt stupid. He HAS to know that everything that is said in this ad he will not have the power to do, yet he still endorsed it. Why? Because he knows the vast majority of his supporters arent very knowledgable about the constitional articles of the seperation of powers.