RE: Can bible really be interpreted as if there is no torment but you cease to exist
February 6, 2012 at 3:48 pm
(This post was last modified: February 6, 2012 at 3:52 pm by Welsh cake.)
(February 6, 2012 at 3:31 pm)Undeceived Wrote: 1. Hell is a place, so to speak, but not what we usually think of a place being. It is not on earth, and neither is heaven.Is it a state or a place is all we're asking. Its not necessary or advisable to go through the process of elimination through your own belief system to rule out what hell isn't, otherwise we're going to be here all day.
Quote:It is spiritual, meaning you won't have a body to burn or a physical brain to think with.Here's the problem "spiritual" is a meaningless word. I have no idea what context you are using the word because you haven't defined the word "spirit" yet. If we don't have bodies that have senses to experience reality or feel pain with then its not hell, its simply oblivion (nothingness).
Quote:Your spirit will be in torment because you missed Christ when he was staring you in the face.How can he actually stare at us in the face if we don't have one?
Quote:Heaven is a not a party to drink at, but a place we will be perfectly happy fellowshiping with others and being with God.How is one happy with god? What does he do to make one feel happy after deliberately giving the survivors in Heaven amnesia to forget the billions that have just been sent to eternal torment and torture?
Quote:Imagine the feeling you had when you were first engaged or married (or what it might be) and when or if you held your first child in your arms. Heaven will be joy like that, but infinitely more powerful and unending.Well since there's no marriage in Heaven nor are any more people being created in the afterlife I cannot relate to the feeling. Especially since getting married to a ball and chain and having children with my inherited illnesses would quite frankly be my worst nightmare, hardly the feeling of joy or elation you were describing.
Also I'm curious as to why you'd throw in infinity as a 'quantifier' of the joy? By what means is the joy sustained indefinitely?