RE: Can bible really be interpreted as if there is no torment but you cease to exist
February 8, 2012 at 10:39 am
(February 8, 2012 at 6:46 am)Abracadabra Wrote: I never said that I haven't tried to justify it.
You've never said you have.
(February 8, 2012 at 6:46 am)Abracadabra Wrote: What I said is that I don't sit around banging my head against the wall trying to justify it.
It's simply not hard at all to justify it from my perspective.
Don't tell, show.
(February 8, 2012 at 6:46 am)Abracadabra Wrote: I have no clue where you think their might be contradictions so I certainly can't address those.
Unless you present your justifications, I cannot point to any contradictions either.
(February 8, 2012 at 6:46 am)Abracadabra Wrote: Nor would I care to hear about your objections.
Yes, I know that your position is "I don't know and I don't want to know".
(February 8, 2012 at 6:46 am)Abracadabra Wrote: In fact, I'm willing to bet that most, if not all, of your objections are based on
erroneous ideas that you have concerning what you believe science has ruled out.
No need to bet. We can find out here and now. You provide your justification, I'll provide the objections and we can see if they are erroneous or not.
(February 8, 2012 at 6:46 am)Abracadabra Wrote: Why should I accept or adopt your opinions on that?
Because they are rationally justifiable.
(February 8, 2012 at 6:46 am)Abracadabra Wrote: I have my own opinions on that based on a lifetime of having studied the sciences.
Then present your bases and justify your opinions.
(February 8, 2012 at 6:46 am)Abracadabra Wrote: So why would I look to you to decide for me what I should deem to be scientifically plausible?
You shouldn't. You should look at reality. And if you were, you wouldn't be so reluctant to present your justification.
(February 8, 2012 at 6:46 am)Abracadabra Wrote: I'll gladly share with you a very strong personal opinion that I do currently hold.
It is my personal view that many scientists (and secular atheists) are
indeed spreading falsehoods about just exactly what science truly can and cannot rule out.
So as far as I'm concerned you may very well have bought into those
erroneous teachings and/or popular misconceptions yourself.
If you have any knowledge of what my misconceptions are or what are the erroneous teachings that I've bought into, then by all means, present them.
(February 8, 2012 at 6:46 am)Abracadabra Wrote: Why should I be concerned with that nonsense?
You aren't concerned about your own lack of knowledge?