RE: Can bible really be interpreted as if there is no torment but you cease to exist
February 8, 2012 at 5:19 pm
(February 8, 2012 at 4:20 pm)Abracadabra Wrote: I just did that in a post in this thread: Freedom of Religion
All I saw was evidence that you lack the capacity to even understand what I'm talking about. But I guess that's to be expected.
(February 8, 2012 at 4:20 pm)Abracadabra Wrote: What lack of knowledge is that?
The knowledge of what concepts you must hold to be true in order to believe what you do.
(February 8, 2012 at 4:20 pm)Abracadabra Wrote: Do I confess to not know the true nature of existence?
Sure? But I also believe that this is innate to all humans.
The lack of knowledge about reality? Obviously, it has to be discovered rather than innately known. It would be innately known only if existence was dependent upon consciousness.
Besides, I've told you before that "true nature of existence" is redundant. The nature of existence is what the truth is measured by. There cannot be a "false nature of existence".
(February 8, 2012 at 4:20 pm)Abracadabra Wrote: I'm quite confident that you don't have complete and divine knowledge either.
Nope.
(February 8, 2012 at 4:20 pm)Abracadabra Wrote: Unless you are some sort of divine being?
Nope.
(February 8, 2012 at 4:20 pm)Abracadabra Wrote: Are you concerned about your own lack of knowledge?
Yup.
(February 8, 2012 at 4:20 pm)Abracadabra Wrote: I hope you aren't too concerned about it because it will always be the state of affairs.
Only to the extent it affects my life and my actions.
(February 8, 2012 at 4:20 pm)Abracadabra Wrote: There will never be a time when you will become omniscient.
Unless of course there is a spiritual essence to reality.
That's the only hope you can ever have of becoming omniscient.
Otherwise you will forever have a lack of complete knowledge.
Just like the rest of us.
Let me get this straight. You believe that omniscience is impossible (you will forever have lack of complete knowledge, just like the res of us). You also believe that if there is a spiritual essence to reality, omniscience is possible.
These two statements together imply that you do not believe that there is a spiritual essence to reality. That is not what you were saying before. Which is it?
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