RE: Can bible really be interpreted as if there is no torment but you cease to exist
February 9, 2012 at 5:24 am
(February 8, 2012 at 8:18 am)Abracadabra Wrote:I didn't say evil, judgement, wrath weren't useful tools for good. Job is a great example. However whether God brings judgement or he allows evil to happen, is irrelevant, as it doesn't prove He is evil inheritly. I said "is" not "does". I define someone (or something) as evil if they do something morally wrong or bad.
To quote your verse "Because they have forsaken me" is a reason that justifies punishment. To use a recent analogy on evil; as a father I love my son. My son understands that there are consequences for his actions. I hold him accountable for his actions. The fact he doesn't "like" his punishment or whether he thinks it unjust is irrelevant as the expectation was established prior to his offence.
(February 8, 2012 at 9:54 am)Rhythm Wrote:
It has been a while since I tossed some meat out to the fishies to bite on, glad I could oblige. So because Jesus said that God is good it proves God is evil... you'll have to enlighten me on your logic there. Oh I see you're using that to counter my second statement that Jesus chose to sin. It does not devide the trinity. It tacitly points the man (who believes Jesus to be a human teacher) to the source of all good and for His coming which is God the father. That isn't a sin, nor is it blasphemy.
I'll await SW or Ryft to come and speak for themselves. As far as God being the only possible knowledge owner, that 's preposterous. I may not have objective absolute knowledge capability. I certainly colloquially "know" things, though. There are plenty of scientific studies that are able to reliably prove something to be consistant. That, in your book, may not be knowledge, but I don't hold the conception that absolute objective knowledge is necessary for usefullness.
(February 8, 2012 at 11:24 pm)Abracadabra Wrote:
Zealots being idiots is what causes people to have unrest. Without religion, people would just find something else to fight about.
"There ought to be a term that would designate those who actually follow the teachings of Jesus, since the word 'Christian' has been largely divorced from those teachings, and so polluted by fundamentalists that it has come to connote their polar opposite: intolerance, vindictive hatred, and bigotry." -- Philip Stater, Huffington Post
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