RE: More Ron Bashing
February 9, 2012 at 1:58 pm
(This post was last modified: February 9, 2012 at 2:23 pm by paintpooper.)
You are making assumptions about his positions without thinking them through. No one is bringing sweatshops back to the US you are conjuring without any evidence to back up those statements. Children working for 2 dollars a day? You are the delusional one. But perhaps 2 dollars will actually be worth something again, we are entering hyper-inflation now and that needs to be stopped.
You think all these things will happen based on his positions but you are just making false connections and illogical conclusions.
All Unions gone = no middle class and sweat shops.
Or
All unions gone = The people take over their work environments. Form co-ops.
Or Unions become co-ops people run labor. I think that was the intention of unions but it has become sick like everything else.
http://www.ronpaularchive.com/1997/10/re...bacon-law/
Also he said more then just "the church will take care of them". And I just showed you his plans for health care. So you are just selectively choosing information you like and don't like.
Class slaves lol. If I was in charge of my own life without government in the way things would be much better. I can take care of myself. So can you.
I'm just down with trying another option besides government taking care of everyone, and waging wars. Lets try less government and less wars and see what happens, cause the current path is not going to end well, we can all see this. Yes it is all our lives in the balance, maybe we will have to be drafted for the war on Iran(Russia,China)?
(February 8, 2012 at 9:07 pm)Rhythm Wrote: Pilots are directly responsible for the dropping of ordinance. Dropping ords in a war is still a far cry from murder. Obviously, if this is murder to you that's cool, you're entitled to that. I'm just mentioning that your definition is so permissive as to make your grandmother somebodies murderer. The reason that I mention this, is that you are of the opinion that somehow, Ron Pauls anti-war stance is some overriding good that would perhaps give us a reason to ignore the rest of Ron Paul. Well, presidents are the Commander in Cheif, and any war is going to have the president at the helm. Ron Paul would drop bombs on someone. Sure, you (and he) would make the case that it is self defense (or warranted somehow, in some way), but it's just special pleading as to what does or does not constitute murder. Conflicts you disagree with=murder, conflicts you feel are warranted=not murder. Correct me if I'm misreading you here.
Dropping bombs during war is murder. There is no other way to slice that. A human died, someone murdered them. An Iraqi civilian is no less human then a US citizen, so why is it ok to kill them? How is that not murder? Cause its a war zone?
What if Russia started dropping bombs on your town? Oh its just a conflict it's ok my family is dead, no one murdered them.
When the war is illegal is built on lies. Yes that is fucking murder. Name me an honest good war? There is no such thing, all war is murder.
You assume Ron Paul will drop bombs? Does this country need to be in a perpetual state of war? No it does not.
I assumed Obama would not, and he did.
Ron Paul has not been in the position to make that choice so we don't know what he would do.
All conflicts are wrong and lies, there is nothing moral about any war. I don't agree with any conflicts. Its one nation strong arming another, no good comes out of wars.