RE: Freedom of Religion
February 10, 2012 at 3:09 am
(This post was last modified: February 10, 2012 at 3:35 am by The Grand Nudger.)
1. There exists some sort of "cosmic mind" that underlies the fabric of the spacetime universe in which we live.
Your evidence for this would be what? What exactly is a cosmic mind? If you cant be incredibly specific that's okay, but I want this concept to be more than just two words with nothing else attached if we're going to discuss it.
2. This mind does indeed have structure and information which I claim resides in an ocean of "quantum fields".
Can you elaborate upon this structure, this information. Perhaps elaborate upon why you feel that this mind even has structure to begin with, or information. What exactly about "quantum fields" makes you believe that this is a suitable location for this spirit (in other words, why is it hiding there instead of under my coffee mug, for example)
3. This ocean of quantum phenomena may very well be the "body of God".
What quantum phenomena specifically?
4. It is my position (as well as the position of the Eastern Mystics) that this cosmic mind is the seat of all conscious experience.
You base this position on what evidence? (Eastern Mystics are con men, as eastern tradition realized literally thousands of years ago btw, Cavarka is one of the oldest currents of eastern tradition, and is also the oldest concrete expression of atheism and materialism we have)
5. It is also this mystical cosmic mind that gives rise to the entire fabric of spacetime (i.e. the physical universe)
Gives rise or gave rise, and what exactly do you mean by this? Are you suggesting, for example, that it is this mind that gives rise to rain, and not evaporation and condensation?
As to whether or not this belief is perfectly reasonable. No, not based on what we've seen so far, which is equivocation and arguments from ignorance, both logical fallacies. Without any evidence presented how can we say that something is reasonable, to be reasonable one must establish and verify facts. Hopefully we can achieve this, cut the fallacies out of your arguments, and then see what we're left with and how well the remainder matches up to the claims you've made (as well as how well the claims match up to reality).
Your evidence for this would be what? What exactly is a cosmic mind? If you cant be incredibly specific that's okay, but I want this concept to be more than just two words with nothing else attached if we're going to discuss it.
2. This mind does indeed have structure and information which I claim resides in an ocean of "quantum fields".
Can you elaborate upon this structure, this information. Perhaps elaborate upon why you feel that this mind even has structure to begin with, or information. What exactly about "quantum fields" makes you believe that this is a suitable location for this spirit (in other words, why is it hiding there instead of under my coffee mug, for example)
3. This ocean of quantum phenomena may very well be the "body of God".
What quantum phenomena specifically?
4. It is my position (as well as the position of the Eastern Mystics) that this cosmic mind is the seat of all conscious experience.
You base this position on what evidence? (Eastern Mystics are con men, as eastern tradition realized literally thousands of years ago btw, Cavarka is one of the oldest currents of eastern tradition, and is also the oldest concrete expression of atheism and materialism we have)
5. It is also this mystical cosmic mind that gives rise to the entire fabric of spacetime (i.e. the physical universe)
Gives rise or gave rise, and what exactly do you mean by this? Are you suggesting, for example, that it is this mind that gives rise to rain, and not evaporation and condensation?
As to whether or not this belief is perfectly reasonable. No, not based on what we've seen so far, which is equivocation and arguments from ignorance, both logical fallacies. Without any evidence presented how can we say that something is reasonable, to be reasonable one must establish and verify facts. Hopefully we can achieve this, cut the fallacies out of your arguments, and then see what we're left with and how well the remainder matches up to the claims you've made (as well as how well the claims match up to reality).
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