RE: Can bible really be interpreted as if there is no torment but you cease to exist
February 10, 2012 at 7:43 pm
(This post was last modified: February 10, 2012 at 7:48 pm by Welsh cake.)
(February 8, 2012 at 2:59 am)Undeceived Wrote: If you stood on the railroad tracks with your friends, and knew a train was coming but didn't have evidence, would you warn them or not?Your 'analogy' is at best horribly vague and at worse makes absolutely no sense.
First off, you have direct observation of the state of the railway* tracks to determine whether or not trains have passed over it recently. If the track is corroded and in a visibly bad state of repair it is highly probable that the line is disused and non-operational - no train has passed there for a long time, nor will another be arriving any time soon in its current condition. And even if there was a train coming you would see it.
Second, you can rely on your other senses. Trains are big heavy and noisy and due to the massive kinetic energy involved you'd hear it a long way off and feel the rails vibrate more as it approaches. Also, if the engineer spots you trespassing on the railway he'll sound the locomotive's horn and apply the emergency brakes making even more sound that'll alert you to the oncoming train.
Third, trains unlike deities, EXIST.
*(we British invented them so we get to call them whatever the fuck we like)
Quote:And there is evidence in the forms of moral conscience, the historical and scientific accuracy of the Bible, third-party documents backing the Bible, signs of intelligent design, human psychology, logic and a number of other points.Shut up, no there's not.
Quote:It sounds like you're having trouble grasping eternity, and so do I. It's beyond the human scope of mind. We can't expect to have the same human emotions or imperfect body we had here on earth.If 'eternity' as a 'state' is incomprehensible then why are you continually making claims about it?
Quote:Does God exist, and if he does, is he a personal, loving God who deserves my attention?Well you're certainly not going to speculate that your personal god doesn't give a flying fuck about you, are you now? Oh no, anything but THAT.
Quote:If we were truly honest, we’d say there is more testable/observable/demonstrative scientific evidence in favor of Jesus Christ than for evolution.Shut up, you're done.
Quote:I listed some reasoning for God’s existence in my other response above. Is He personal and loving? Well logically He wouldn’t create us for the sole purpose of hating us and wreaking havoc.Seriously? Are you even fucking trying any more? You make the presumption that a deity would have to feel somehow obligated to its creation and not have fun turning us all into target practice which is pretty much what the Biblical God's favourite pastime is anyway? I think you've realised your position is untenable at this point and have basically given up.
Quote:He could have dropped us all on earth, unthinking and uncommunicative, and sent a giant asteroid at us on day one. Instead, most of our lives are fairly pleasant, and the Bible (this God’s messaging device) explains why it isn’t pleasant all the time.Bull. Fucking. Shit. There are billions people in the word who are living in poverty, without basic sanitation, lacking vital resources and starving to death as we speak. The knowledge of this inequality, this sad fact of reality, while you do nothing but continually kiss your unworthy god concept's metaphysical bum-hole and expecting others to do the same, makes my life anything BUT pleasant.
Quote:God exists, He is personal, and He lovingly sent Jesus His Son to die in place of us.Preach preach preach. Is that all you can do!?