RE: Can bible really be interpreted as if there is no torment but you cease to exist
February 12, 2012 at 5:07 pm
Hello Fokes, sorry I have been missing a while, busy, busy, busy, a chaotic life is part of the territory,I am not even sure I will be able to respond to any comments, it depends on what tomorrow brings.
Only 2,476,633? Mao did a lot more than that over a shorter period of time and he wasn't even trying.
The first world war, think if it could have been prevented, all those millions of lives saved. Every one of them would be dead now. Its not about the end of life, it's about how long you get and what you do with the time.
If people starving bothers, you feed them. If disease distresses you, then help find a cure. If you don't like war, stop shooting people, you may say I don't have that power or that wealth or that ability, then do what you can. Your supposed to control the governments, or is that just another absurdity.
Which neatly leads me to the topic of this post. Can bible really be interpreted as if there is no torment but you cease to exist.
Apology to any Christians who disagree with me, remember this is just my reading of the situation.
Yes, it can because Hell in the traditional sense of eternal torment, red hot poker, frying tonight. Doesn't exist, it is not in the guide it is not in the bible.
In king James and later, Hell was translated from Sheol, meaning grave or pit, Gehenna, the local rubbish dump and later during the Roman and Greek contact Hades, a belief held both the aforesaid.
Especially the lowest pit in Hades, Tartarus very familiar looking Tartarus. Don't the traditional devil look like pan grown up and lost his pipes, but who can play a mean fiddle.
The eternal punishment is death, that's it, it tells you this throughout the bible. From Adam right through. The flame is eternal, not the burning of flesh, not in Luke 16 either. Basically to use a modern word, your deleted, off the hard drive no coming back from the recycle bin.
If you are suffering in hell, you are supposed to be aware, have feelings, be just as you are now but in pain for ever, you are immortal. The bible says the sinner dies, the saved live and become immortal.
That would make God a liar, God is no liar.
Hell as and absurdity, a paradox, a part of the cosmic joke. The cosmic joke is my name for the absurdity's that continually come up as you examine various paths scientific, philosophical, religious.
Nod to the Reverend Jeremiah there, he knows what I am on about. I find that they exist because there is something you don't know, or assume, or haven't considered, some factor missing.
So why Hell, what is it why has the concept lasted so long. Good story aint it, sex, violence, colour ,fear, horror,monsters, has give birth to a thousand spin off story's. It has all the hallmarks of a efficient distraction, some thing to take your attention off what you should be observing, something to send you in a wrong direction. But who would deceive the whole world.
Before you atheists start poking fun at the Christians about this. Think! How many of you have chosen your paths because you where influenced by that story.
Only 2,476,633? Mao did a lot more than that over a shorter period of time and he wasn't even trying.
The first world war, think if it could have been prevented, all those millions of lives saved. Every one of them would be dead now. Its not about the end of life, it's about how long you get and what you do with the time.
If people starving bothers, you feed them. If disease distresses you, then help find a cure. If you don't like war, stop shooting people, you may say I don't have that power or that wealth or that ability, then do what you can. Your supposed to control the governments, or is that just another absurdity.
Which neatly leads me to the topic of this post. Can bible really be interpreted as if there is no torment but you cease to exist.
Apology to any Christians who disagree with me, remember this is just my reading of the situation.
Yes, it can because Hell in the traditional sense of eternal torment, red hot poker, frying tonight. Doesn't exist, it is not in the guide it is not in the bible.
In king James and later, Hell was translated from Sheol, meaning grave or pit, Gehenna, the local rubbish dump and later during the Roman and Greek contact Hades, a belief held both the aforesaid.
Especially the lowest pit in Hades, Tartarus very familiar looking Tartarus. Don't the traditional devil look like pan grown up and lost his pipes, but who can play a mean fiddle.
The eternal punishment is death, that's it, it tells you this throughout the bible. From Adam right through. The flame is eternal, not the burning of flesh, not in Luke 16 either. Basically to use a modern word, your deleted, off the hard drive no coming back from the recycle bin.
If you are suffering in hell, you are supposed to be aware, have feelings, be just as you are now but in pain for ever, you are immortal. The bible says the sinner dies, the saved live and become immortal.
That would make God a liar, God is no liar.
Hell as and absurdity, a paradox, a part of the cosmic joke. The cosmic joke is my name for the absurdity's that continually come up as you examine various paths scientific, philosophical, religious.
Nod to the Reverend Jeremiah there, he knows what I am on about. I find that they exist because there is something you don't know, or assume, or haven't considered, some factor missing.
So why Hell, what is it why has the concept lasted so long. Good story aint it, sex, violence, colour ,fear, horror,monsters, has give birth to a thousand spin off story's. It has all the hallmarks of a efficient distraction, some thing to take your attention off what you should be observing, something to send you in a wrong direction. But who would deceive the whole world.
Before you atheists start poking fun at the Christians about this. Think! How many of you have chosen your paths because you where influenced by that story.
