RE: More Ron Bashing
February 18, 2012 at 8:09 am
(This post was last modified: February 18, 2012 at 8:35 am by reverendjeremiah.)
(February 17, 2012 at 5:24 pm)paintpooper Wrote: As we resort back to what my original thread was about. It only proves my point. Some stupid newsletter that is irrelevant is all you guys have produced. Ron Paul 2012!
It's not a race angle. Its the truth.
It's not what someone says it is their actions that matter. I'm with you Tiberius. I'm done.
Then i deduce that you have ignored the vast majority of my posts. Of course I fully support your personal freedom to come to such a conclusion, but just because YOU consider ALL of the points I have made to be irrelevant does not make them default universally irrelevant. Ending your sentences with political slogans does not help your position either.
What is Ron Pauls actions in the matter? He hasnt done a single thing about his newsletter other than shrug his shoulders and try to brush it under the rug. That is an action that i would not tolerate. If it were my newsletter, then the hell if I would let other people write under my name, and i would keep a close eye on it, and if something slipped by on something I disagree with, especially something as caustic as racism, you can bet your libertarian ass I would have made public apologies and delt harshly with those involved in the subterfuge... none of which actions Ron Paul did.
So i agree, its all about actions, which Ron Paul lacked in this situation. Inaction is just as important as action in this situation.
(February 17, 2012 at 7:53 pm)Tiberius Wrote: I studied human biology thanks very much. You'll note that I didn't say "person", but "human". As I've said before, life starts at conception, and that life is genetically human, ergo, human life starts at conception.
I care not if that human life is just a bunch of mindless cells; technically speaking, we are made up of nothing but mindless cells. I do not see why our consciousness is grounds for having human rights. Do we take human rights away from brain dead people, or people in comas? No. Human rights apply to all humans.
Then if you studied biology you would be very aware of the fact that life not only starts at conception, but that the sperm and egg are also living as well. A single sperm is life. A single egg is life....unless, of course, the sperm or egg are dead, in which case nothing will happen from their encounters. You are cherry picking your views on this divisive topic, which never helps.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6rauO_M9tb4
Can you tell me in this video which sperm are alive, not healthy, or dead?
Also, we can also find out that, genetically, this sperm is human. So this is a video showing some living human sperm, along with sperm that are deficient and dead.
How many steps away from "every sperm is sacred" are you Tiberius?
(February 17, 2012 at 8:31 pm)Moros Synackaon Wrote: Wow, barring the supreme court with an act of congress from reviewing an act of congress. Like that's going to work.
I do believe I have made SEVERAL posts on this thread showing how Ron Paul would remove checks and balances that are in the constitution. his supporter claim he is a strict constitutionalist, yet Ron Paul consistently ignores the constitution when it doesnt settle right with him. Apparently Ron DISPISES the supreme court, and it CONSTITUTIONALLY sanctioned job of being a check and balance over the legislative branch.
One of yet many constitutional facts that Ron Paul flatly opposes. He even wants the first amendment to be up to popular state decisions, wether each individual state decides to allow their supreme court to decide or not on the most basic liberties of religion, speech, etc... Ron Paul is no civil libertarian. He is just another neo-con with paleo-conservative leanings.
(February 17, 2012 at 8:38 pm)paintpooper Wrote: IMO the best solution to the abortion issue is just like almost any other issue. Abortion is a band-aid to a problem, not a solution.
You need to identify the problem, (too many unwanted pregnancy's) and find the solution. (Affordable contraception and education).
There is no easy fix for abortion. Your solution neglects many angles.
What about accidental pregnancy? You know, the contraception didnt work for some reason? What if she is allergic to latex and contraceptive chemicals?
