More Ron Bashing

[reverendjeremiah]

A) It's a paradox meant to illustrate that you cannot exercise rights that you are not capable of. Were driving to be a right, a blind man certainly would be precluded from such, for example.

...and yet everyone that is alive is perfectly capable of exercising the right to life. How is an unborn child not capable of exercising the right to life? It's living isn't it? Or do you believe life starts at birth?

Im beginning to question your grasp on logic Tiberius. Lets look at what you just said

"...and yet everyone that is alive is perfectly capable of exercising the right to life.".

So someone who is alive is proof that living is a universal and logical right?

You are no moral nihilist tiberius.

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I'm always amazed at how often a heart felt desire to preserve every embryo is carried right along side the sentiment that no new born child has any right to expect as they develop access to healthcare, three square meals or an education adequate to prepare them to compete in the work force. Why is the right to mere existence for the unborn so precious that the state should guarantee it over the objection of the parents and yet when it comes to the nurturance necessary for them to grow to live viable lives the state should back off and say that is up to the parents?

Thats Tiberius alright. Strangely he has "moral nihilist" and "minarchist" in his profile, yet he opposes some forms of abortion.

So private property is a right, and life is a right, but a woman has no right over her life and property (womb) if a baby is in it.

All of this negative and positive rights talk is nothing more than sophestry and tricks. Its a way of trying to make certain opinions of certain individuals appear as if they were universal. Its a trick to try to force your opinion on other people.

other: "Abortion is immoral because the baby has a right to life."
Me: "Right to life? how the fuck did you come up with that?"
other: "Every baby deserves a right to life."
Me: "When will you get to the proof?"
other: "Its logical. Living is a negative right, therefore not killing is moral."
Me: "And how are they logical?"


Care to answer how they are logical Tiberius?