(February 23, 2012 at 8:51 am)NoMoreFaith Wrote:(February 23, 2012 at 8:33 am)chipan Wrote: Well we believe the same thing in respect that organic matter came from inorganic matter. I have a process for how it happened and you don't. Yet you say believing in your nonexistent process requires no faith. Well by that logic neither does mine.
You do not have a process. You have a hypothesis with no evidence.
LastPoet linked to a natural process which can cause Abiogenesis, but we have no evidence as yet, that is the process used in primordial soups.
If you wish to state that you have a process, you must accept the process "Genie of the Lamp" did it is equiprobable to your own.
Do I believe in a process? We can prove a process exists, which you have agreed to the logic of. You are being disingenuous by attaching the word nonexistent when clearly, even if it was "God did Magic" as a process.
However, you are making the illogical leap that "God Did Magic" in the absence of evidence of a natural process (the fact evidence does exist for natural processes is irrelevant atm).
If we can find no alternative process to the one shown by Miller-Urey, then by rights of Occams Razor, this is more likely than "no process, was magic".
I do believe in a process. I believe in the design process, that it was put together by a highly intelligent being. You fault me for no evidence when you don't have evidence either? Wow...And as for primordial soups, only produced amino acids... And only 2 out of 20 that are required. It's a long way off. And I dont think God used magic, I think he used highly advanced science though it may seem like magic to you because you don't understand it. No blame, neither do I or anyone else for that matter.
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Between their loved home and the war's desolation!
Blest with victory and peace, may the heav'n rescued land
Praise the Power that hath made and preserved us a nation.
Then conquer we must, when our cause it is just,
And this be our motto: "In God is our trust."
And the star-spangled banner in triumph shall wave
O'er the land of the free and the home of the brave!
-4th verse of the american national anthem