Why is it so hard for you chippy to say "I really don't know, but I would like to find out" ...? Hmm??

There is no crime for not knowing, the crime is when you are given the tools and still you will not look.

(February 23, 2012 at 8:25 am)KichigaiNeko Wrote: No chippy it does not require faith at all. THAT is something YOU demand and probably will never find. You are inadequate in your understanding.

Well we believe the same thing in respect that organic matter came from inorganic matter. I have a process for how it happened and you don't. Yet you say believing in your nonexistent process requires no faith. Well by that logic neither does mine.

See my post above chippy ..

You are still worthless.

(February 23, 2012 at 8:35 am)KichigaiNeko Wrote: See my post above chippy ..

You are still worthless.

What exactly do you think I don't know? All I see is unprecedented logic on your part.

Right back at chya mate...all you've got is a silly little book from Iron-age goat herders. And on evidence on your part.

You have no evidence. You are too closed minded to even contemplate alternatives that don't agree with your silly. little. book.

You know nothing.

(February 23, 2012 at 8:43 am)KichigaiNeko Wrote: Right back at chya mate...all you've got is a silly little book from Iron-age goat herders. And on evidence on your part.

You have no evidence. You are too closed minded to even contemplate alternatives that don't agree with your silly. little. book.

You know nothing.

And you don't even have a method of origin of life. You just skip the gap in your head.

(February 23, 2012 at 8:33 am)chipan Wrote: Well we believe the same thing in respect that organic matter came from inorganic matter. I have a process for how it happened and you don't. Yet you say believing in your nonexistent process requires no faith. Well by that logic neither does mine.

You do not have a process. You have a hypothesis with no evidence.

LastPoet linked to a natural process which can cause Abiogenesis, but we have no evidence as yet, that is the process used in primordial soups.

If you wish to state that you have a process, you must accept the process "Genie of the Lamp" did it is equiprobable to your own.

Do I believe in a process? We can prove a process exists, which you have agreed to the logic of. You are being disingenuous by attaching the word nonexistent when clearly, even if it was "God did Magic" as a process.

However, you are making the illogical leap that "God Did Magic" in the absence of evidence of a natural process (the fact evidence does exist for natural processes is irrelevant atm).
If we can find no alternative process to the one shown by Miller-Urey, then by rights of Occams Razor, this is more likely than "no process, was magic".

(February 23, 2012 at 8:51 am)NoMoreFaith Wrote:

(February 23, 2012 at 8:33 am)chipan Wrote: Well we believe the same thing in respect that organic matter came from inorganic matter. I have a process for how it happened and you don't. Yet you say believing in your nonexistent process requires no faith. Well by that logic neither does mine.

You do not have a process. You have a hypothesis with no evidence.

LastPoet linked to a natural process which can cause Abiogenesis, but we have no evidence as yet, that is the process used in primordial soups.

If you wish to state that you have a process, you must accept the process "Genie of the Lamp" did it is equiprobable to your own.

Do I believe in a process? We can prove a process exists, which you have agreed to the logic of. You are being disingenuous by attaching the word nonexistent when clearly, even if it was "God did Magic" as a process.

However, you are making the illogical leap that "God Did Magic" in the absence of evidence of a natural process (the fact evidence does exist for natural processes is irrelevant atm).
If we can find no alternative process to the one shown by Miller-Urey, then by rights of Occams Razor, this is more likely than "no process, was magic".

I do believe in a process. I believe in the design process, that it was put together by a highly intelligent being. You fault me for no evidence when you don't have evidence either? Wow...And as for primordial soups, only produced amino acids... And only 2 out of 20 that are required. It's a long way off. And I dont think God used magic, I think he used highly advanced science though it may seem like magic to you because you don't understand it. No blame, neither do I or anyone else for that matter.

You have no understanding chippy. You have not provided proof or evidence for your argument.

(February 23, 2012 at 9:09 am)KichigaiNeko Wrote: You have no understanding chippy. You have not provided proof or evidence for your argument.

NEITHER HAVE YOU