I can see how being around the bible a lot as a younger person could be detrimental to your ability to believe in god, especially if you have a brain. I lived for a time in the bible belt, and was raised christian. But when I decided that the bible was not for me, I didn't automatically assume that must mean god didn't exist. It only proves, if the bible is not the word of god, that the bible is not the word of god. That is what I meant before when I said we could agree on the fact the we've been lied to. You guys assume we were lied to about the existence of god, I that we were lied to about it's nature. The weakness of the bible, and the annoyance of watching modern Christians is enough to make anyone doubt god. They have presented a version of god, a theory on god, that is unbelievable. But there are other theories on god that are in no way christian. There are other theories that are christian, all the old gnostic texts.
I see a lot of this modern world is misinformation. Lies, manipulation... What, I ask myself is a better piece of misinformation? To make a fake god and wave it around, although it does not exist? Or to make a fake god that is so silly that people rationally doubt whatever real god there is? I guess it depends on whether or not there is a god... heh
I suspect almost all of you will come on here and say "I was christian" or "the bible made me atheist", since it is a very common experience. But I ask, did you guys do a thorough enough search? If you have strong doubts about one faith, about one holy book, why do you automatically assume that those doubts hold against ALL faiths, and ALL holy books? I threw down the bible once, dabbled in agnosticism, but didn't consider the search over, and all questions answered because north Carolinians had a weird view on things.
I am rambling, my point is that I somewhat agree. I found that the bible couldn't represent the word of god to me, especially if the only validation was self imposed. But that didn't make me an Atheist. Just someone who didn't believe in the divinity of the bible. That being said, it is a pretty piece of mythology and theology. Beautiful allegory and parables. What of the god of the gnostics? What of the faiths without a real god, like Taoism and Buddhism? You can't use only the bible to make your claim against god, just as they can't use it solely to present their claim for god.
I hope I have not stepped on any ones toes, these are just my thoughts.
Thank you for listening,
-Pip
I see a lot of this modern world is misinformation. Lies, manipulation... What, I ask myself is a better piece of misinformation? To make a fake god and wave it around, although it does not exist? Or to make a fake god that is so silly that people rationally doubt whatever real god there is? I guess it depends on whether or not there is a god... heh
I suspect almost all of you will come on here and say "I was christian" or "the bible made me atheist", since it is a very common experience. But I ask, did you guys do a thorough enough search? If you have strong doubts about one faith, about one holy book, why do you automatically assume that those doubts hold against ALL faiths, and ALL holy books? I threw down the bible once, dabbled in agnosticism, but didn't consider the search over, and all questions answered because north Carolinians had a weird view on things.
I am rambling, my point is that I somewhat agree. I found that the bible couldn't represent the word of god to me, especially if the only validation was self imposed. But that didn't make me an Atheist. Just someone who didn't believe in the divinity of the bible. That being said, it is a pretty piece of mythology and theology. Beautiful allegory and parables. What of the god of the gnostics? What of the faiths without a real god, like Taoism and Buddhism? You can't use only the bible to make your claim against god, just as they can't use it solely to present their claim for god.
I hope I have not stepped on any ones toes, these are just my thoughts.
Thank you for listening,
-Pip
