The Bible made me an Atheist.

[Edwardo Piet]

Um...kind of backwards?

No, I don't think. Why are you guys atheists? You surely will go on and on about evidence, logic and obvious conclusions. Well I have evidence of the possible existence of god, and it is logical to me. But we have stood at this point many times before. The things that are evidence to me might not make sense to, or convince yourselves. We are individuals like that. I think if you gave as honest an answer as to why your an atheist, it would be that you can personally disprove the theory.

Lol. My answer is obviously fucking obviously honest. I said I know of no evidence. You've given me of what you believe to be evidence, but it's not evidence, it doesn't demonstrate God. And becasue it's not evidence, that's why the burden of proof is still on you. I don't need to "disprove it" - that would be an unwarranted reversal of the burden of proof.

Ever heard of the burden of proof?

Nope. Hehe, this is also somewhere we end up a lot. I maintain my position on that. The burden of proof is one of your guys favorite tricks. If I claim there may be a god, I should try to back it up. If you claim there is not a god, the same applies.[/quote] I don't claim there is absolutely no God though. I just don't believe in him because there's no evidence. The burden of proof is on the positive claim - I'm not makinga positive claim I'm just dismissing yours because it lacks evidence.

The reasons I have for believing in my god are personal. They are logical, and sensible, to me.

Well that's all good well and proper, fine and dandy - but is it actually evidence?

The eternal philosophical conversation about the existence or non-existence of god exists in a realm devoid of the influence of evidence. The argument about god is an argument about ideas, not things.

Either God exists or he doesn't. I need a reason to believe he exists, just as I need a reason to believe the FSM exists. In other words I need something that backs such a belief up, that gives credence to it - I need evidence.

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