The Bible made me an Atheist.

[Pippy]

You said it yourself, this God you adopted comes not from any ancient writings

But if it came form ancient writings, you would discredit that. So I am not allowed to believe in a god that exists in old books, and I am not allowed to believe in a god that doesn't exist in old books. I mean, if I told you that I believe in Yahweh or Krishna, then you would be OK with it? I doubt it. The old books are there. My god comes from the fact that all humans everywhere tried to name and interpret god, and wrote many different old books about it. So the subject of the books is worth a thought, especially when they agree or overlap. I don't know how many ways I can say 'I believe in two meanings for the word god'...

because you can't prove to yourself the God you made up does not exist.

Not because I am not trying. Not because I don't want too. Because there is nothing I have found, being thorough and very objective, that disproves god. You, I am assured can't prove to me god doesn't exist either. Just as I can't, and don't want to convince you that there is a god.

How is my made-up God any more or less stupid and disgusting than your made-up God?

Because I believe in my made up god, she is very important to me. Your made up god was just constructed to mock and ridicule me like a child, so that is a huge difference. You don't believe in god, so your personal god your are describing is a rude and immature mockery of mine. That's a difference.

My God happens to be a beautiful and morally upright thing that I use to help me act right in my own life.

That is another statement I know you don't mean, you are just repeating what I say like a little brother, to see if it gets a rise. You have said many times before that you don't believe in god, so...

So what my God is sexual.

But you don't beleive in god, you are just being rude. You are poking fun, and it dosn't do much for the conversation... Your god that liked your hard on is a little gross...

I'm not merely 'accusing' you. I'm affirming what you had already written.

Then affirm what I wrote in total. Don't pick half of what I said. I said god is an objective thing (that's the 'I'm right, you're wrong' part)) and is a personal relationship (that's the I get to see it as I wish part). Those are the TWO sides of god as I have presented them in my opinion. Yes I made up half of the relationship, but I can't help but make it up. You seem to hate my god because I made it up, so I should convert to an existing religion and follow that already established god? And what about you, you choose to see things the way you want, believe what you want. Am I allowed to do that too?

It's not that I made up god in the sense that I decided what she is, and how she functions. I can only believe what makes rational sense to me, and all that I believe of god makes rational sense to me. It is possible that we were seeded as a giant alien genetics experiment, but that does not make rational sense to me. So I just don't believe in anything I want to, all willy nilly, but I believe in what makes sense to me. In that light, I am exercising the same right you guys do. To live with what you think is true. To be allowed to think for yourself...

and yet you provide no "obviousness" for the God you are purporting to exist.

Let me talk slower Dotard, may be that will help.
I can't possibly provide evidence for god to you.
You can't possibly provide evidence of gods non existence to me.
I will never present a scrap of this evidence, of this proof, since I cannot. If you want to believe in god, figure it out. If you don't want to believe in god, have a wonderful time. It is not my job to convert people, I am not a missionary. It is not my job to convince people, I have no need for validation. I can only say "I believe in god" and leave it at that. If you wan to disprove my opinion, go for it. But to rudely mock my beliefs and god is without point. I know you disagree, this is an atheist forum...

Lol. My answer is obviously fucking obviously honest. I said I know of no evidence. You've given me of what you believe to be evidence, but it's not evidence, it doesn't demonstrate God. And becasue it's not evidence, that's why the burden of proof is still on you. I don't need to "disprove it" - that would be an unwarranted reversal of the burden of proof.

We have to figure this out. I don't believe the burden of proof falls on me. I don't believe the burden of proof falls on me. If you guys get out that dusty stick again, I will repeat. I don't agree that the burden of proof falls on me. I would only be burdened to prove what I am saying if it was a) possible, and b) my intention. I don't want to convince you to believe in my god. I would like to think you guys would take my word on it that I believe in my god, but obviously not. I don't care if you think my beliefs are stupid, I think yours are stupid, so that is a big stupid circle... That's why I try not to go there, out of respect for your guys right to think whatever you want ( a right I don't seem to be granted).

Why I believe in god. I know of no evidence. You've all given me what you believe to be evidence, but's it's not evidence, it doesn't dismiss god. The bible made me an atheist? The silliness of the bible is evidence of a fault in god, I thought a man wrote the book. So which of us is treating it as divine then?

I'm not makinga positive claim I'm just dismissing yours because it lacks evidence.

And you too EvF... I CAN'T PROVIDE EVIDENCE. Stop chastising me for not making my god seem obvious to atheists. Jesus guys, come on. I never said I could provide evidence, and I always maintained that we are in a type of cyber relationship that excludes the possibility of either of us sharing evidence in this format. Sigh.

fine and dandy - but is it actually evidence?

no evidence, no evidence, no evidence, no evidence, no evidence, no evidence, no evidence, no evidence, no evidence, no evidence, no evidence, no evidence, no evidence, no evidence...

I need evidence.

I cannot provide that in this situation. I am sorry, you will have to find god all on your own.

It's the same 3 arguments over and over and over here. I don't want to fall for the burden of proof trap, I can't provide evidence in this capacity, and I already know you're all atheists... Son of a bitch...

This is why I don't want to discuss god. It gets no where, but so slowly...
-Pip