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Berkeley's Idealism
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RE: Berkeley's Idealism
(March 14, 2012 at 5:06 pm)ChadWooters Wrote: The problem is a bit more subtle than your answer suggests. Berkeley’s Idealism claims that all knowledge reduces to perceived phenomena. You cannot deny that perception happens.

I don't deny it. Denial would be an assertion requiring evidence, or at least a unique falsifiable prediction, to be worth making.

(March 14, 2012 at 5:06 pm)ChadWooters Wrote: But you can reasonably deny that a physical reality (or deity for that "matter") is necessary to support perception.

Based on what? The only evidence - perception, argues otherwise. Assertion to the contrary of evidence, and also devoid of falsifiable predictions, hasn't any claim to being "reasonable". No worthwhile reasoning either lead to it, or can flow from it.

(March 14, 2012 at 5:06 pm)ChadWooters Wrote: Berkeley’s Idealism says, “Prove that physical matter exists,” and “Give me evidence of any reality other than perceived phenomena.”


To the maximum degree of evidence allowable within perception, no evidence for its non-existence is found.



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Berkeley's Idealism - by Neo-Scholastic - March 14, 2012 at 1:08 pm
RE: Berkeley's Idealism - by Anomalocaris - March 14, 2012 at 1:13 pm
RE: Berkeley's Idealism - by Neo-Scholastic - March 14, 2012 at 3:25 pm
RE: Berkeley's Idealism - by Anomalocaris - March 14, 2012 at 4:14 pm
RE: Berkeley's Idealism - by Neo-Scholastic - March 14, 2012 at 5:06 pm
RE: Berkeley's Idealism - by Anomalocaris - March 14, 2012 at 5:13 pm
RE: Berkeley's Idealism - by Neo-Scholastic - March 14, 2012 at 5:23 pm
RE: Berkeley's Idealism - by Anomalocaris - March 14, 2012 at 5:25 pm
RE: Berkeley's Idealism - by genkaus - March 14, 2012 at 5:21 pm
RE: Berkeley's Idealism - by Neo-Scholastic - March 14, 2012 at 5:49 pm
RE: Berkeley's Idealism - by Jackalope - March 14, 2012 at 6:06 pm
RE: Berkeley's Idealism - by genkaus - March 15, 2012 at 1:40 am
RE: Berkeley's Idealism - by reverendjeremiah - March 15, 2012 at 1:23 pm
RE: Berkeley's Idealism - by reverendjeremiah - March 14, 2012 at 1:19 pm
RE: Berkeley's Idealism - by downbeatplumb - March 14, 2012 at 3:28 pm
RE: Berkeley's Idealism - by The Grand Nudger - March 14, 2012 at 3:29 pm
RE: Berkeley's Idealism - by genkaus - March 14, 2012 at 4:29 pm
RE: Berkeley's Idealism - by The Grand Nudger - March 14, 2012 at 5:25 pm
RE: Berkeley's Idealism - by Neo-Scholastic - March 14, 2012 at 5:36 pm
RE: Berkeley's Idealism - by Anomalocaris - March 14, 2012 at 5:54 pm
RE: Berkeley's Idealism - by Neo-Scholastic - March 14, 2012 at 6:04 pm
RE: Berkeley's Idealism - by Anomalocaris - March 14, 2012 at 6:06 pm
RE: Berkeley's Idealism - by The Grand Nudger - March 14, 2012 at 5:39 pm
RE: Berkeley's Idealism - by The Grand Nudger - March 14, 2012 at 5:50 pm
RE: Berkeley's Idealism - by Neo-Scholastic - March 14, 2012 at 5:59 pm
RE: Berkeley's Idealism - by Anomalocaris - March 14, 2012 at 6:05 pm
RE: Berkeley's Idealism - by The Grand Nudger - March 14, 2012 at 6:00 pm
RE: Berkeley's Idealism - by Neo-Scholastic - March 14, 2012 at 6:10 pm
RE: Berkeley's Idealism - by Anomalocaris - March 14, 2012 at 6:16 pm
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RE: Berkeley's Idealism - by The Grand Nudger - March 14, 2012 at 6:53 pm
RE: Berkeley's Idealism - by Neo-Scholastic - March 14, 2012 at 10:27 pm
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RE: Berkeley's Idealism - by The Grand Nudger - March 14, 2012 at 11:13 pm
RE: Berkeley's Idealism - by reverendjeremiah - March 15, 2012 at 5:20 pm
RE: Berkeley's Idealism - by The Grand Nudger - March 15, 2012 at 1:42 pm
RE: Berkeley's Idealism - by genkaus - March 15, 2012 at 2:14 pm
RE: Berkeley's Idealism - by The Grand Nudger - March 15, 2012 at 2:17 pm
RE: Berkeley's Idealism - by genkaus - March 15, 2012 at 3:01 pm
RE: Berkeley's Idealism - by The Grand Nudger - March 15, 2012 at 3:03 pm
RE: Berkeley's Idealism - by Neo-Scholastic - March 15, 2012 at 5:14 pm
RE: Berkeley's Idealism - by genkaus - March 16, 2012 at 10:43 am
RE: Berkeley's Idealism - by Neo-Scholastic - March 19, 2012 at 9:45 pm
RE: Berkeley's Idealism - by genkaus - March 20, 2012 at 3:49 am
RE: Berkeley's Idealism - by Neo-Scholastic - March 21, 2012 at 11:49 am
RE: Berkeley's Idealism - by genkaus - March 21, 2012 at 4:47 pm
RE: Berkeley's Idealism - by Neo-Scholastic - March 21, 2012 at 9:44 pm
RE: Berkeley's Idealism - by genkaus - March 22, 2012 at 3:35 am
RE: Berkeley's Idealism - by Neo-Scholastic - March 23, 2012 at 8:33 am
RE: Berkeley's Idealism - by genkaus - March 23, 2012 at 10:27 am
RE: Berkeley's Idealism - by Neo-Scholastic - March 23, 2012 at 12:09 pm
RE: Berkeley's Idealism - by genkaus - March 23, 2012 at 5:53 pm
RE: Berkeley's Idealism - by Neo-Scholastic - March 23, 2012 at 7:15 pm

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