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No DHS necessary
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RE: No DHS necessary
(March 19, 2012 at 7:48 pm)Rokcet Scientist Wrote:
(March 19, 2012 at 7:09 pm)kılıç_mehmet Wrote:
(March 19, 2012 at 10:55 am)Rokcet Scientist Wrote: You extremists have more in common than you think. You call yourself a nationalist, they called themselves communists, but IRL the differences are merely cosmetic.

Cosmetic? The communist(and leftist en general) thinks outside the boundaries of language, culture and kindred.
That's why they fail, that's why their system doesn't work. The nationalist way of thinking brought forth the many nation states in today's world.

I wasn't talking about Wagnerian rhetoric and grand vistas, mehmet. That's all dramatic wishful thinking. Hogwash. BS for the foot soldiers.
I was talking about the real effects all extremist regimes inevitably have in common. The genocides, the elitism, the personality cults (proxies for religion), the scapegoating and demonizing, the loss of personal freedom and free will of millions, the economic hardships. Etc. etc. Irrespective of – and irrelevant to – the colors of the banners they are perpetrated under.
Well, again, you are incorrect.
We do not practice any of the above mentioned.
We are all for freedom. Freedom for our people, the freedom that has been witheld from us by the years of oppression under Soviet and Chinese rule, the years of oppression under American-backed governments, the years of economic dependency on the west, our technological dependence and slavery to the west and the newer yoke, that our politicians had been trying to put on us for years, the EU.

As you do not know what we Turks have went through, you simply assume that everything was fine, and we're the ones who are trying to take things for worse. We're trying to save ourselves from destruction.
We do not *scapegoat* nor demonize anyone. We simply point out, we blow the whistle towards the perpetrators, we show the real roots of social injustice, and the reason why our people have been ignored and put under the yoke by the real elitists, murderers and those who deprived -and still continue to deprive the multitudes of the unfortunate nations on earth.
Those are the ones who claim to be the champions of freedom, democracy and modern thought. They are no *nationalists* no, they are not even at the extremes of anything. This is why they are more dangerous than anyone else. Pragmatism knows no ideals, no boundaries, no real limits. This is why they do not give a damn about the people who die in Iraq or Afghanistan, they just cash in the profits without being at the extremes of anything.
We are nationalists, and we have opposed both the war in Iraq, and Afghanistan, we have opposed the evils that the Turkistanis had to endure in China, the oppression that the Tibetans had to endure, while the pragmatists have turned their heads, cashed in the profits, and did not give a damn.
Now, are we so evil for being nationalist Turks, who love our people?
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No DHS necessary - by Rokcet Scientist - March 16, 2012 at 2:41 pm
RE: No DHS necessary - by kılıç_mehmet - March 16, 2012 at 7:56 pm
RE: No DHS necessary - by Rokcet Scientist - March 16, 2012 at 8:33 pm
RE: No DHS necessary - by kılıç_mehmet - March 17, 2012 at 3:40 am
RE: No DHS necessary - by Rokcet Scientist - March 17, 2012 at 5:51 am
RE: No DHS necessary - by kılıç_mehmet - March 17, 2012 at 10:17 am
RE: No DHS necessary - by Tempus - March 17, 2012 at 12:16 am
RE: No DHS necessary - by Rokcet Scientist - March 17, 2012 at 1:20 am
RE: No DHS necessary - by padraic - March 17, 2012 at 12:33 am
RE: No DHS necessary - by Tempus - March 17, 2012 at 3:43 am
RE: No DHS necessary - by Rokcet Scientist - March 18, 2012 at 2:40 am
RE: No DHS necessary - by kılıç_mehmet - March 19, 2012 at 6:46 am
RE: No DHS necessary - by Rokcet Scientist - March 19, 2012 at 10:55 am
RE: No DHS necessary - by kılıç_mehmet - March 19, 2012 at 7:09 pm
RE: No DHS necessary - by Rokcet Scientist - March 19, 2012 at 7:48 pm
RE: No DHS necessary - by kılıç_mehmet - March 19, 2012 at 7:59 pm
RE: No DHS necessary - by Rokcet Scientist - March 19, 2012 at 8:02 pm
RE: No DHS necessary - by kılıç_mehmet - March 19, 2012 at 8:05 pm
RE: No DHS necessary - by Rokcet Scientist - March 19, 2012 at 8:27 pm
RE: No DHS necessary - by kılıç_mehmet - March 19, 2012 at 8:47 pm
RE: No DHS necessary - by Minimalist - March 19, 2012 at 10:59 pm
RE: No DHS necessary - by Rokcet Scientist - March 20, 2012 at 2:54 am

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