Humanism

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He may well 'go to hell' in a flood, however, the point in terms of survival of a society, is that altruism and working together tends to be more successful.

This is what I just said. I work together with my own society, and provide altruism to my own people, who make up that society.

You limit whom you are willing to offer altruism on a basis of ethnicity rather than species, which is basically all humanism is saying on the matter.

Like offering help to humans, rather than the whole lot of apes?
Is this what you're saying?

I agree however, that broad altruism such as humanism has a more dilute effect than specific altruism towards only people who share common traits with you.

It certainly has to. One must help his own people before lending a hand to others.
We Turks have always concerned ourselves with the well-being of others, before our own. Where did it get us? Nowhere.
And some did not. They have put the wellbeing own their own people above the others. Look where they're now. The EU, USA. 1st world countries, all.

While I disagree with you on many points, I can understand your vitriol towards western countries, we are hardly paragons of working together.

It's not just the west, friend. I do not make distinctions based on locations.
The east, of which we are a part of, has not been particularly helpful in the past either. This is why I lay value on ethnicity, blood and language, because these are the things which unite people.

Strategically however, interest only in your own "kind" is faulty as it creates a minority of your own, which, in terms of morality, can hardly be blamed if they equally consider that you "kann sich zum Teufel scheren" yourself.
In short; you are a small scale majority, which when lacking in altruism for any but yourself, makes you a larger scale minority in world.

Well, I don't know who you describe as a minority, me, as an individual, or we are a people?
Besides, I'm not blaming people. I'm just playing the game as it was meant to be played.
I know that if I would be trapped in a room with scarce food, with two others of the same ethnicity, they will kill me, and take the food for themselves, before maybe killing eachother off.
This is the way it works, friend. I am simply looking after my own people.

It is telling that a country founded on a conception of a fascist state, has had to do its best to outwardly distance itself from the concept.

I don't know what you mean by this, but my ideology does not contradict itself.

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But I think you think that I think things in terms of individual pursuits.
No. I said it numerous times before, friends. I deal in terms of nations, and numbers.
Givings alms, helping the poor, the traveller and the underprivilaged is a staple of our culture. We help those who in need. But these are things that are done on a personal level, and in terms of numbers, should first be applied to one's own kin, before moving on to the others.

This is why I oppose certain policies of my state, concerning itself with, say, Gaza, while ignoring our own blood kin in Azerbaijan and Turkistan.
Why on earth, I mean? There is an underlying thing associated with it, of course, but that's for another time.