RE: new member
August 15, 2009 at 5:28 pm
(This post was last modified: August 15, 2009 at 5:59 pm by kittenshere.)
(August 14, 2009 at 10:13 pm)Tiberius Wrote: A question for you kittenshere,
If you believe as you have already stated, that Hell is a Christian concept and does not exist, why do you attempt to convert atheists? What is the ultimate point? If there is no punishment for non-belief, why do you "pester" (that really isn't the right word...no offense meant!) us?
I'm just curious why you would try and change someone's life, which they are perfectly happy with, and when there is no benefit at all from it.
Adrain, As I stated earlier I believe that christian teachings among others I feel is why some, not all, but some atheist exist. Who could love or want to worship someone so cruel as to torture someone in a so called hell fire. This hell of torture is not biblical. The bible is misunderstood and I can prove it with explanations that make perfect sense. I simply do not want people thinking God is gonna torture them for all eternity. thats just completley absurd. It is not me that can change anyone's life. but Jesus can and is going to.
the bible says these things.
1. John 6:44 and 65 no man can come to me if ever the father who sends me should not be drawing him.
2. John 15:16 says ye have not chosen me, but I have chosen you.
God only chooses some for now. But it is his will to call and choose ALL MANKIND in the future. Not all are called at once. And what God wills will be done. Isa 55:11 so shall my word be that goes out of my mouth, it shall not return me a void but it shall accomplish that which I please. Thy will be done in earth as is it is heaven.
we cannot serve God on your own. Phil 2:13 says For it is God which works in both to WILL and TO DO of his good pleasure. Also For by grace you are saved through faith and that faith IS NOT OF YOURSELVES. IT IS A GIFT OF GOD.
seems I cant change you and you cant change yourself. so I did not come here to change you but to tell what the bible really says. But you know God works in strange ways so maybe my being here is part of his plan. To irritate the atheist lol Just kidding. The bible does says, we can do nothing by ourself. In fact without God we would not even have a thought process.
I saw on someone's post earlier that we cannot see nor hear God. Your right we cant but we also cannot see air but we know it exist. We can only see the affects of it. like trees blowing. we cannot see hunger but we know it exist. we cannot see pain but we know it exist. we cannot see bacteria on things with the naked eyes but we know it exist. need micoscope for that. There are many things that we cannot see with the naked eye.