RE: Dilemma for theists!
April 13, 2012 at 7:05 pm
(This post was last modified: April 13, 2012 at 7:20 pm by C Rod.)
(April 10, 2012 at 9:06 pm)Rhythm Wrote: You've never seen forgiveness or redemption? I'm going to have to nitpick you here and state quite plainly that you never saw jesus do anything at all.
Or is it scapegoating that you've never seen? Good for you, it's fucking terrible.
Sacrifice not scapegoating.
(April 10, 2012 at 10:11 pm)genkaus Wrote:(April 10, 2012 at 4:49 pm)C Rod Wrote: The son should want to absolved his pain and offense to the victim's family. Even if the dad is able to free him, he knows he did something tragic and must make amends. The father's love is proven and the son's integrity is shown. But who would do those things, somebody who believes in forgiveness and redemption would but only because someone else showed it first(Jesus).
Oh, the son wants to be absolved. The victim's family wants to hold him responsible, but the judge wants to "absolve" him of his sins as long as the son says he is sorry. So, according to you, that is enough? It is okay to go around stealing and killing as long as you say "sorry" and regret it afterwards? That says a lot about your religion and its nothing flattering.
What is the sentencing for 3 counts of manslaughter? The son has to pay that price for his mistake, i never said he didn't. The father wants to free him and can even have it happen but son should refuse and accept his punishment. Yea when you assume something about something you don't understand and believe it to be true because you want to, you come off very unflattering and ignorant.
(April 10, 2012 at 8:20 pm)MysticKnight Wrote: I don't believe in hell...but here is the thing.
Assuming God exists and he is the perfect moral being, then his judgment is absolute and right. If it was good to wish and want x people to be in heaven, then surely God would have that will.
If God wills that x people go to hell, then it's good for us to will that such people go to hell.
So it wouldn't be right. Plus it's disrespectful and evil to think God will torture an innocent person forever for doing something good like wanting others to go to heaven.
i wouldn't disrespect God like that...
but i don't believe in hell...
I thought that too, about the disrespect. Why don't you believe in hell?
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