RE: Do you agree with Richard Dawkins?
April 17, 2012 at 8:43 pm
(This post was last modified: April 17, 2012 at 8:53 pm by The Grand Nudger.)
That definition escapes speciesism how Mogul? You are assigning "rights" based on metrics determined by species. The vocal supporter of plants rights would say that we suffer in our way, with the equipment available, and that plants suffer in their way, with the equipment available (I would have to take off your shoes to count how many times I had to sit through this argument from just one very vocal "sacredness of nature" type). I'm on your side btw, I don't think that plants have rights, and I don't think that they suffer the way we suffer...but neither do cattle. So where does that leave us? I don't think your decision to be a vegetarian is a "bad" decision, morally or ethically speaking, I think it's neutral. I don't think it's a decision you can provide a ration justification for by means of assertions with a demonstrable value of objective truth. I think it's a decision you made and rationalized. Subtle but important distinction when you go about telling others how they are violating the innate rights of this or that by consuming chicken tenders.
(and this is laying aside Jackels comment on your inability to prevent "needless suffering" of sentient creatures by not eating them, this would barely register as a blip on that count. So you don't eat the flesh, but you walk on sidewalks, post messages on these forums with an electronic device, etc etc etc. All made possible by animal byproducts. None of this is "needful suffering", is it?)
(and this is laying aside Jackels comment on your inability to prevent "needless suffering" of sentient creatures by not eating them, this would barely register as a blip on that count. So you don't eat the flesh, but you walk on sidewalks, post messages on these forums with an electronic device, etc etc etc. All made possible by animal byproducts. None of this is "needful suffering", is it?)
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