(April 18, 2012 at 12:33 am)teaearlgreyhot Wrote: I don't know of any theists who believe God "created himself." They think he exists necessarily or eternally. And I'm not sure why you think God not "creating himself" entails that he isn't God.
Though I think one of the biggest points against God is much of his nature as defined does seem arbitrary.
Let's put it in a more acceptable form then: Does god determine his own nature?
(April 18, 2012 at 12:33 am)teaearlgreyhot Wrote: A similar problem for theists who hold to objective values is that they don't seem to be decided as to what exactly those values are. It reminds me of the problem creationists face when trying to define "kinds."
Oh, you are so wonderfully naive.
Creationists never try to define kinds. Evolutionists keep trying to get them to define kinds so that the ridiculous idea can be disproven once and for all and creationists run all over the place avoiding having to define it.
