Dilemma for theists!

[genkaus]

"Scorch the earth" how?
Have you ever watched "Friends" the TV show when the dude said tart-lets over and over again and then just said the words lost all meaning. I noticed how you used disgusting, it made me laugh.
The difference between Jesus and the soldiers compared to the Jews in Germany in the 1930s and the very first goat to ever be "scaped", is willingness. If they are willing its sacrifice and not scapegoating. Its not passing the blame by our cause, they are simply accepting that they can fix are cause because we cant because sometimes we just cant do it, were not strong enough or aware enough. You may think you can and might be able to, but it doesn't make you better, it just makes you more fortunate or more delusional.
Jews are hiding in your attic, soldiers know there are Jews hiding and have been told some are in your apartment. They come to your door and ask, demanding that you tell them to give them up because the soldiers have orders to find them. You are a German citizen firm in your belief that what the Nazis are doing is wrong. You tell them they are not here. The soldiers know you are lying and explain that if you do not confess you will be taken instead. What do you do? If you continue in your lies you are scapegoated for the Jews in your attic or are you sacrificed? Or do you scapegoat the Jews so you can have freedom? Or should the Jews come out from hiding and give themselves up? If you don't like the question, just evade and answer "What do you want me to say" or "how is that relevant", you have that pattern.

Do you even read any of the replies? The concept of scapegoating vs sacrifice has been explained so many times that you should be able to tell the difference here. That you cannot implies that you suffer from some cognitive disability because of which you cannot form new concepts or correct the old ones.

In this case there is no sin or fault. The Jews are not at fault for being alive and therefore, even if you die for them, there is no "fault" to be accounted for. Thus - not scapegoating. Also, you are not at fault either for offering Jews shelter and you are not at fault for valuing your life above theirs. So, no, even if you give them up, its not scapegoating.

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as for genkaus:
We shouldn't be with God? Maybe we shouldn't but if he wants us with Him and we want him, why not?

Because in doing so he is ignoring what is just. He is being unjust and therefore sinful.

It was the only way and he wanted to do it. As for time, he was sinless no time should be had, his death should not have even happened, in that he suffered more than anyone because he deserved none of it.

A) It was not the only way. I can think of many different ways none of which involve discarding justice.

B) Your suffering is not a matter of how much you deserve - its a matter of how much pain you go through. A guy who has spent four days in hell has suffered more than Jesus. His suffering is greater by one day. Which means, your Jesus suffered less than anyone else who has ever been to hell.