(April 24, 2012 at 6:29 am)Welsh cake Wrote:(April 24, 2012 at 1:17 am)radorth Wrote: Assuming hypothetically the NT is true, what's not to love about Jesus other than perhaps his statements on punishment?I can't love someone I don't think was even a real historical figure.
Conversely, even IF he was a real living man, flesh and blood, its not practical or sensible to love or hate the dead. They're dead. There's no person left to love or hate anymore.
As for his supposed "actions", "works" or "teachings" (again if we assume they're credited to a real person who lived thousands of years ago), I prefer to read up on the lives of actual humanists who had an impact on their society and pre-date him such the Ancient Greek philosophers who, not to mention, didn't run around with a massive god-complex.
So you do not love those you loved before they died, seems to me you had no love for them at all.
God loves those who believe and those who do not and the same goes for me, you have no choice in this matter. That puts the matter of total free will to rest.