(April 26, 2012 at 9:19 pm)C Rod Wrote: Jesus opened up heaven. That is what he was to do. Isaiah 53. Without his forgiveness we would have to stay in death with our sin but he took all our sin so...
Its stupid, why would you want anyone to suffer, let alone the ones that don't want to?
I wouldn't say there sinless, i would say their ignorant and innocent. But like so much we can do and imagine and dream as adults, they can not. Jesus says we should be both.
I guess that's why Jesus is so special.
Typically brainwashed view - as expected from a fundie. Sorry, but some of us actually use our brains and not drink the Kool-Aid.
Its your god who wants us to suffer. He is the one who said we are sinful and don't deserve heaven, inspite of the fact that he set the rules. And then, he didn't have the balls to stay consistent with his own rules and tried to create a loophole by pretending to die for our sins and going to hell. But then, he couldn't take the heat - chickening out in three days and making up a new rule that that was enough payment - in blatant disregard for any logic or rationality. Then, instead of actually staying true to his promise of being a loving god, he attached a condition at the end of his so-called "selfless" sacrifice - demanding unquestioning obedience and mindless worship expected from a zombie. That is the true and corrupt nature of your god and your Jesus. By my standards, both of them are sinful and should burn in hell for eternity.