RE: Somebody said this to me
April 27, 2012 at 7:55 am
(April 26, 2012 at 4:16 pm)cdabamsworth Wrote: Somebody I know said:
"The universe exists. The universe has a beginning (big bang)
The universe we know, live in and are aware of.
Quote: and an end (freeze).
The guy is an idiot wannabe. The end of the universe is called heat death.
Quote: The idea of it collapsing again is absurd, what would cause that?
If it were going to, gravity would cause it to contract but there will not be a big crunch.
Quote: The universe couldn’t have created itself, as it had to have been in existence first (common sense) in order to have done so. So, something OUTSIDE the universe created the universe.
Common sense isn't common (especially among Christoholics). The universe sure could have began without any outside influence. Just look at a bootstrap program or an autocatalytic reaction - those aren't the best examples but ones we are most familiar with, a better example some of us are familiar with is the way virtual particles begin to exist.
Quote:The universe is all space, time, and matter (theory of relativity). Something outside time created it.
When did he demonstrate that. Does he always make conclusions before they are shown to be true?
Quote: Could be an abstract idea, but have you ever seen a number affect something?
What does this have to do with anything?
Quote: What else is outside the universe? Nothing. So, nothing comes from nothing (common sense). Nothing isn’t the creator. So, it’s a disembodied mind that created it. It is outside time, space, and matter. It’s a disembodied mind because there is no other answer.
This is a Christoholic version of what is called a
Boltzmann Brain.
Quote:I can create a sand box, and I am not a sand box. I can still interact with the sandbox while remaining separate from it. In the same way, God interacts with us. I attribute this mind to the Judeo-Christian God.
Again, this conclusion isn't warranted and anyway, if he was born in Iran chances are he would attribute this mind to Allah, if he was born in Norway in the 12th century, he would attribute that mind to Thor, if he was born in China, chances are he would attribute this mind to Buddha, if he were born intelligent, he would attribute this mind to his imagination.
Quote: The logical answer is there, even if you are blinded to it."
Yes it is and he is blinded by science
